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I used gaskets and cement, but originally when I installed it with AbboBob (ex SAU president), he said you can get away with vasalene if the exhausts fit up close enough, the vasalene will attract some of the carbon from the exhaust, the vasalene will then pull the carbon into any depresions and keep a hole sealed up (assuming it is only a small hole). It worked for a year, untill I was bored and randomly decided to cement it up, I was skeptical at first but it worked for a year that I know of. Best to do it properly though from the beginning, a good job will save you time in the long run

Ask her if she knows the Woolworths/Caltex Underneath Cherrybrook Village, the workshop has been there for 20 years, they do it right by the book for normal cars and Euros. I wouldn't take an import there though for anything more than oil change, one of the mechanics used to own a r33 GTR but he has since left. There are no other decent shops in Hills area. To the OP, +1 for Unigroup +2 for Unigroup +3 for Yavus @ Unigroup -500 for hills motorsport -500 for Unique Motorsport

If it costs you more than a case of beer to get an exhaust done, then go out and find better friends.

Nice, very nice. Was the car on and moving or is that just where the dials sit?

Hang on, How did I miss this? Forget paint talk, throw up some pics Sam, A few months ago there were 3 F40's in the country that I knew of, 2 of them have since been sold and gone to Europe. A few months before that Austorient brought in 2, one came from the USA and the other from the UK. I think these were the ones that got sold to europe since. Did your dad ever have a temporary rego on it? I saw one with the plates F40LM in Melbourne just after christmas.

I was in the market for an s15 silvia a few years ago, drove a series 2 gts-t and never looked back. I agree with Luce, if I was to buy another Nissan, it would be a GTR. But the hassel with the boys in blue is annoying, part and parcel of driving any skyline (even the non turbo ones)

all good, if my info is wrong (which i'm starting to think quite a bit of the specific details are), then I take back the bits that are wrong. Yeah the paint is done in Italy (@ Mirandola not Santagata factory, but it's close enough lol) I was getting mixed up with the rolls royce frames that are made in Germany lol, don't ask me why I got them confused, probably from that stupid "Megafactories" show on the discover channel). Either way i'm not letting down that FEzas paints swirl much easier than most other cars, that i'm 100% sure on as it is my own experience, not info relying from others. No more orange peel from me Sam, i'm done, and I learnt a few things from the last few pages which I didn't expect to, so now I can pass on the right info

That is why I said "except for Gregorio Silver" lol And you can always get the odd special order, but they are pretty rare from the factory. Anyway topic has be sufficiently covered (with a lot of overkill), would make topics easier if I explained my reasonings better from the start instead of bringing up points about "exotics" and "metalic paint" without explaining why I brought them up. But I guess other people generally don't know as much about the topic as others do, and connections have to be explained instead of just being left to be infered and interpreted by the responders.

Makes sense with the 360, i'm not sure if they use ceramic clear coats yet, makes sense that they should if the technology is available.

I can not think of a standard Factory Ferrari paint job (untill the last 2 years) that has metalic paint except for Gregorio Silver. Lambo is different as they are influenced heavily by Audi (which is a good thing). I only brought up the metalic paint because generally Exotics haven't really had metalic paint untill recently, and the fact that as you said there is no where for the scratches to hide really means there is less chance of getting away with an amature job. Yay sun's out, i'm going to see what the state of my swirls are atm

That is why with certain cars it isn't worth risking the job yourself if you are going to use powertools to paint correct, powertools are a saviour and a burden at the same time. Most common example is the pneumatic nut tighteners that tyre places use to tighten up your wheel nuts, ive had 2 nutts threaded on my r33 because the tyre guys don't use the guns properly. This is when Mario and Damians extensive experience show over other smaller detailers. Good point, the angle would be a variable for chips, still doesn't explain the swirls in the fez and no swirls in the merc, And I was them exactly the same (actually I wash the fez/lambos frist and wash the merc afterwards, so in theory the merc should have the swirls)

True true, now I can see it from a females perspective

Wow how much detail did they spend on that, great read Dom thanks for that.

I Don't mean this to come out the wrong way Gohan, but really you look as if you are just saying things to prove me wrong regardless of what is said. Looks like if I said the sky was blue you would say it's green. From my own "real life" personal experience and from having to study for my self about cars that most people will most likely never physically see , and from liasing with people in the trade, I stand by what I say, there is minimal information on the topic in the high end cars and I fear you have been led astray by someones made up theory (probably came from a pannel beater who hates all expensive cars) Ferrari uses their own paint, Lambo uses Audi paint (there high end paint, not the everyday A3 and A4 quality paint) When I say paint i'm refering to the whole process that makes up the paint job, not just the colour or shine of the paint. Lambo's are painted in Germany in the same line as Audi R8's Audi A7 ect... The everyday Audi's are painted literrally on a seperate line in a separate factory in Germany. They may have the same colour codes but they are not the same, a colour code is just for the colour, it has nothing to do with the clear coat that is applied afterwards (clear coat is what makes the car). Just because the process of painting is the same primer/Base/clear coat, (actually it is more than primer/base/clear, there are positively and negatively charged particles involved aswell) does not mean it is the same paint, there is no other way to paint them. Exotics don't have the hardest clear coat, the hardest clear coat in a car i've owned was a kia rio, but basically the car was a pure clear coat, nearly no base in it lol. And if exotics had such a hard clear coat, why is it every time you take a ferrari for a drive you will ALWAYS find a new paint chip, where as the Rio never had any chips or swirl marks (and that used to get washed by those stupid car wash places with international students who don't give a crap if the chamois falls on the floor and collects sand) Everyday cars resist swirls the most, and that is why they are so hard to correct their paint work. I agree that exotics may be easier to detail, but that is because of it's softer clear coat, it is much easier to take out swirls and light scratches off a soft clear coat because when you are taking the swirls out, you are basically sanding back the top layer of the clear coat to reveal a fresh clear coat underneath that has not yet oxidised and has not been scratched. On the same token they are much easier to get swirls, there is no two ways about it. You talk of Ceramiclear being used, you do know that there are different grades of Ceramiclear produced by PPG industries? If Merceedes and Ferrari were using similar paint (as you said), how come The CLS that has done more driving than my Fez has NO paint chips or swirls but the fez has light swirls and easily a dozen chips? Please let us all know which spray shop you work at so we can avoid taking it to where ever you learnt the trade.

Even if you found someone tomorrow that says yes, whos to say the car will exist in 14 months or the owner will still be alive to carry out the service? I'd look into it no more than 3 months before the wedding, also by then there should be a bigger pool to choose from, more modified ones around the place, maybe the rental places will reduce it to a 1 day hire when the cars become more common. Congrats on the future wedding.

wow my previous post ended up like an essay

You guys still don't get it, NO ONE SAID MARIO ONLY DOES EXOTICS *face palms himself* Sam you should have noticed this as well, let me know if you agree or not. Exotics like Ferrari and Lamborghini have a shocking paint work in terms of being very easy to see swirl marks, much easier to see a defect in these paint works because it is a flat paint that has nothing other than a clear coat over it. Your everyday run of the mill US and Jap cars have little bits in the paint work that make up the paint, usually it is like a glittery metalic effect that looks like the paint is made up of billions of tiny specks of paint. Exotics paint is much finer and has a permanent "wet look" to it with a very soft clear coat. Because of it's glossy/wet look surface and it's very fine paint particles it is much easier to see swirls and a hell of a lot harder to get them out. Besides that the only reason I said he does exotics is because people trust him with their Super cars that are worth more than the average house prices in Australia. It wasn't intended to mean that he is the best detailer (even though he is definately one of the best around) it was put forward as more of a trust issue, meaning he is trusted enough to work on such rare and expensive cars so there should be no worries with him working on an R35. Anyway his results are all you need to worry about, I couldn't care if my detailer was Hitler, as long as he does the best job possible and it is what I paid him to do. The cars a detailer works on is not a guide to seeing how good a job he can do, but if a detailer gets repeat business from all walks of life with a range of different cars, and the proof of a great job is easily accesible on independent forums, doesn't that count for something? I only recommended Mario because I have seen his work first hand, and I know he is bassed in Melbourne (where the op is from) I don't know why people have taken it personal saying that Damian is the better guy (whic he could be or he may not be) and then trying to discredit Mario because of the type of cars he has the opportunity to work on, that argument is flawed. I would have easily have recomended Damian as well if I knew he existed and if I knew of the quality of work he does. At the end of the day it is the result i'm after, I couldn't care who does it as long as it is a superb job.

If you have the time and patience you can do it yourself, you just need the right equipment, everything you need is sold by Meguires. (and no don't use Mothers unless you want your car looking worse than taking it to an old school petrol station orbital brush car wash) Question is how many people have the time?

The highlighted bit you wrote makes no sense... not sure where you got that from He does all cars (if you look at his website), no one said he only does exotics. And seriously how is a detailer that doesn't do exotics better than one that does both normal and exotics. Anyway a picture is worth 1000 words like how he detailed this R35 http://aussieexotics.com/forum/eurogloss-p...ack-5792.0.html

ya i know, just saying it because I havn't seen it posted anywhere else

Manuals have been compliant for at least a month that iv'e known about. I tried to look up the list right now but looks like the page is down atm (or being updated)

take it to get a blue slip from a workshop that arn't tossers, usually stay clear of chains stores like Ultratune, take it to a private guy.

If you want a perfect job there is no one from Sydney who can do it right from what I have seen. Ask Mario when he is next comming to Sydney.

YUp I highly recommend Mario from Eurogloss, I've got him flying up to Sydney to do my cars soon. HE has done a lot of the exotics around the place and no one can match his finish, cars come back better than they did from the factory. He is not cheap, but he is worth every $. If you want it done properly then this is the guy, browse through aussieexotics forum and you can see some of his work.

They arn't impossible to sell, they have just put the price up, the silver 360 was $176 or $175k in january, now it's $192k with 2000 extra km's on it. Doesn't logic say if it didn't sell @ $176 then why put the price up to $192k? The car is only worth $170k at most, most people don't want traditional manuals in those cars, and a Silver Ferrari doesn't sell for anywhere near red/black or yellow sell for. If that car was the exact same car in tidyer condition, red exterior with tan interior and F1 gear box, it would easily sell for $220k, ive seen red/tan,F1 similar milage UK imports get $210k only 2 weeks ago. Also what ever happened to the black modena coupe, what was really wrong with it? I took it for a test drive in January and put deposit down, took it for a 2nd test drive and it came up with a suspension fault and a generic fault. That's when I dropped it and demanded my deposit back because the head sales man at the time (the one that got fired from Ateco recently) wouldn't let me get a pre purchase inspection done on it. The repairs were an easy $30k because a month afterwards the price of that car was advertised for $30k less.