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slightly off topic but you said you use shell fuel in your car, do you feel any difference when you compare it to the BP?

Backups because you said you lost his mobile and his email addy. hope you get something back

“Without Prejudice and/or Hypothetically speaking” gun it down a side street, all of us have had a situation where you just gun it, its not to say its right, infact its bloody stupid, but the temptation is always there, especially when some idiot is trying to crash you. If you learn from it (which you sound you have) then thats all anyone could ask for isn't it? I'm pretty sure you know how much attention your car gets from the wrong crowd as it is, so I doubt you do many stupid things in public with that car seeing as it sticks out like dogs balls. And who is this guy surposed to be yelling at you, like frk everyone has broken the road rules at some point includeing the old man, guess next time you see the clappadore you should accidentally walk past his car with your keys hanging out of your pocket? I try not to get worked up about road issues anymore because ive realised if they do get an opportunity to damage your car, there is nothing you can do about it so the other guy always has the last laugh, keep your cool and get him back later on where it hurts in the pocket, and he probably won't even suspect it was you.

speculators are always wrong, the heading of this thread said it would reach $2.30 by the end of 2008.... I like how that turned out

well its titled "best car YOU have driven" but for all we know there are people on here that are including cars they have "driven" via playstation or Xbox

someone has already answered it and it would have been easier to just say the answer instead of acting like a knob about it

lol its only been 2 weeks, hardly a scam yet, either way heard of backups? also contact sau admins, sure they might be able to help...

as the title says, there is one driving around Sydney, not sure if rego or not. Any help would be cool for interests sake

could have ended up much worse, great to hear its still possible to get working again...

Ya but I originally said the oil in a maintained gtst shouldn't even be very brown let alone black with a tinge of yellow to it. Anyway point made and accepted. What else can help the original threads question? Paint fade, condition of rubber seals...?

I have made it more clearer after I realised, but how the hell do you expect to dump the oil on a car your only looking at? I thought it would be assumed thats where any reasonable person would check the oil during a viewing inspection. Even a propper Pre purchase inspection will never dump the ouil from the sump just to check its condition.....

Funny that, I went away to Port maquarie for the long weekend, the gf's 2005 Astra has done circa 30 000km, it is due for a minor service in about 1000km so the car has done 9000km since last oil change. I checked the oil last friday just to make sure there was enough in it, even after 9000km since last oil change the oil still had some yellow in it, sure it wasn't clean by any standards, but it definately was far from being black. Could it be because she only ever uses ron 95 and 98 fuel, so it doesn't leave asmuch crap in the engine oil? I doubt her garage uses great oil in an astra... That car hasn't had any problems either after 20 000km shes owned it...

look at my cars results. IT is correct, if it is BLACK it hasn't been looked after, the oils job isn't to turn black, in these engines if it is pure black there is something wrong with the car or it isn't maintained properly or both. 3000km in my car since its last service (yes i did the 100 000km service early because just like all of you out there, i have no way of knowing if my car's kms a genuine. I'm just checking if 3000km means the car is run in yet? because my oil is still mostly yellow not with a bit of brown??? I never said if the oil was pulled out of the sump, but I have since clarified that I am talking about the dipstick. You guys will probably reply saying something along the lines that i'm getting too worked up about something so trivial. Well it directly answers the thread and it WILL help a potential buyer find a decent skyline or at least minimise the risk of buying an under performing lemon. And for those of you who cannot admit that I know what i'm talking about, look at these pics, Next service is 2000km away, so the car has done nearly 3000km since its last oil change. the other photo shows the colour of the oil, pretty yellow to me with alittle bit of brown, but maybe bunta is right and my car isn't run in after 3000km?

If a decent rb turbo engine is pure black on a dipstick wipe, it isn't getting the proper maintenance or the engine isn't running fresh anymore. An RB turbo should never get to the point of being pure black on a dipstick wipe.

so instead of telling us its a myth, and only you have said otherwise even though allot of people in the know haven't said anything about that statement, what does it mean? Enlighten us. Every week there is someone on here saying it stands for Race Bred, no one has said what it actually stands for nd no one has contested it...

I have 2 cars that get serviced every 5000km maximum, and one car that gets serviced every 1000km, none of them turn black in that time, they all only reach a brown at the worst in that time. I only use elf synthetics for the two 5000km cars, and use Shell for the 1000km car purely because thats what the manufacturer recomends and because the shell was developed purely for this car. I don't think I have made my point come across too well seeing as I was writing early in the morning, anyway if you pour the oil into a basin of some sort the oil will look midnight black, if you are just checking it on a white cloth you will see the oil will still be brown with quite abit of yellow still visible, you can not check the car's oil in an inspection by dumping it all into a basin, you can only check it from the dip stick. If you check it and it is pure black on the cloth that is unusually black, there are different grades of brown and black in oil colour. The day I buy a faulty engine using my techniques of looking for a decent car is the day i'll admit i'm wrong, but after driving the line for 50 000km with only having to perform a clutch change and the coils, and the fact that Yavus from Unigroup car tuners did my last service (100 000km major service) and dynoed it saying it is "the freshest r33 engine he has ever seen" with the dyno results of now 194.4rwkw with only a turbo back exhaust, pod filter, 10psi boost on standard turbo and a fmic running on a standard ecu. last dyno day most of the r33's were getting 180rwkw and under with the ssme mods. The dyno day before it had a catback and pod only and it hit 160rwkw where everyone else was getting between 125-145 for stock or catback exhaust. I do most of my work on the skyline myself, most of the time it ever needs oil and filter, I have grown up with cars, I have worked on a vast more range of cars then probably most of you guys have from Kia-Ferrari, I have lived with 2 and 4 stroke bikes since a kid and I have studied allot into how oils work and learn't things for myself that no one else has ever realised. Look into your own cars more closely next time and you will eventually come around and say "that prick was right".

260 is its electronic limmiter anyway

r33 gtst oil is meant to be dropped every before 5000km mate, i dont know what condition your engines in, but a fresh one like mine will not turn black in 5000km of road driving. and whats with the swareing? grow up mate, I see you don't change your oil as often as it should, (note to self, not to buy your engine if you have to sell it for some reason). Ignore what bozo said, if the oil is black as midnight its a great indication the previous owner didn't bother maintaining the car. Also check for oil under the radiator cap, if you see that steer away from that buy. Remeber a carolla can run on the same oil for 15000km with no probs, do that on an RB turbo and kiss your cars reliability goodbye, its simple but whats more important than milage is maintenance. Theres a reason why exotic cars with high milage but have perfect service history fetch a higher price than the same car with lower milage and no history, high performance engines do not last long if they are not maintained properly, an RB stands for Race Bred, they rev fairly high, they burn the oil quite easily. Fresh looking yellow oil can still be burnt after a hard day at the track, the oil doesn't even have to change colour for it to need a change, so forget it when its black...

nah everything can be changed or cleaned. seats, service sticker, brake discs can all be changed, brake discs are machined anyway so you can't tell just by that. Timing belt cover????? Steering wheel gear knob, they cost about $20 2nd hand over there at the wreckers. Underbody can't tell you anything and plenum can't either. especially if the car was once modded and is now back to standard to pass sevs or whatever the import rule is called now. Most important is how the car feels and drives, numbers on the cluster don't mean anything, a 30 000km genuwine milaage engine can fail, and 200 000km engines could go the whole time wihout probs. Check the colour of the oil if you can, if its black then it hasn't been looked after at all, turbo cars shouldn't let the oil turn brown let alone black. At the end of the day if you don't want to buy a car with wound back km's, stop being a tight ass and buy new, other than that buyer beware

found it, but the 599gtb and the 599xx are very different cars.... meh combine who cares threads dead anyway

ahh nick really? I don't think there were any rules being broken by my post that was taken down. edit: found the other thread dw

lol Aaron

is it the same car thats always at wakefield and eastern creek?

lol

I'm not surprised by that at all, used car dealers are the worst and the ones on parra road from granville right through to ultimo are all just as bad as each other.