you can lol all you want, my last car had q line mb quarts, yes they where much better, but what im saying is so many people upgrade to basic pioneer or kicker splits and these people are not gonna see any gain with that money spent, simple as that, if you have a budget to buy mb quart, focal or other brands like that you wouldnt ask questions about stock speakers period... so instead of laughing at genuine comments make sure you take them in the context they where written in, and don't be a douche.