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+1 actually following up with results .63 rears just are kind of shit in the real world, you nearly never get a better result or a more responsive result from going that way. See also: Cheap manifolds. Use the stocker (its really not that bad) or go full retard and twin scroll high mount things.

Got 31L/100km last tank. Fixing tank lid did not help economy

Mine with Famous for 35k was something like $100 per annum for laid up cover. Effectively nothing. They are probably on VWL and know that no one is ever going to steal it.

so many people have ummed and ahhed and committed to buy then never showed. So... bump.

I also saw that dyno graph, and well, the difference in minimal, and you can screw in more boost on the GTX to the point where it may nose over where the 8374 was. It comes down a bit to what you need, and realistically, budget. I can't low mount an 8374 on a stock manifold, (I have a 25) I can with a Garrett. Garretts are well known and extremely available and god damned durable for the most part relative to others, historically. They also always seem to perform the same no matter what car they go on. They're dependable. The thing about the BW though, is all things considered, no one regrets having chosen it once they've paid the money. Not one person has said "Well, it's a little better, but it's not really worth the extra coin" It can be argued that you can drive around a little more lag especially with AWD, or in my case more midrange = more smoke. That may be so, but the truth is no one is complaining once they do it.

If you're starting out with a build and that's the target, the BW 8374 is probably where you'd aim as you would have a healthy budget to do so. I also thought the GTX3582 was a size down from the 6266 and 6466, benefits of being a size down apply as the GTX is generally a good unit once you crank up the boost which is what the GTX compressor is good for over the GT. But if you don't crank the boost it's going to look "laggy" for its power, but it's just because you can (have to?) really lean on the GTX to make the power, Similar to the Precision - Less so for the 8374. But on a 2.6 that wants 500AWKW (.. why... what gearbox do you plan to use?) the answer is 8374.

Unfortunately it was the turbo heat blanket..... Somehow...

See, that's a feature I'd like in an ECU!

I shall also be at sandown, unless my car catches fire, which it did again today on a hill drive today which was nice. Thanks for that fire extinguisher

This is how I know how not to break things. I am Captain Hindsight incarnate. Sent from my Nexus 5 using SAU Community mobile app

to be fair.... I haven't broken a lot of the things that have befallen me. have broken a few though... and been saved from breaking a LOT more by loving ECUs

I'm saying I use the features things better than the PFC have. Your tune "feels" right but there's no way you can perfectly setup a car in a few hours, ever. You can get 90% which is good enough for 99.9% of situations, but not 100%. I change fuel cells all the time (well not all the time, but certainly have in the past after changes are made, on a different mixture of 98/e85 which wasn't done on the dyno, etc.) How are you gonna know if an injector is slightly failing? Fuel pump is starting to let go? Fuel filter is clogged? You may not care but I sure do and I have that ability. You won't know till you melt a piston. Maybe your components will never fail. Run 2 pumps and ONE dies? Oil temp too high, water temp too high when you're out on track and not *really* looking at Gauges because looking elsewhere? Oil pressure starting to get a bit thin at high RPM? etc. Logging is great, but automatic logging to the device AFTER the thing you wanted to log has already happened (i.e, don't have to turn on logging first and then go test something) is a godsend. The powerFC enables you to change fuel maps and timing to allow for mods. For a setup like yours Birds, it's enough, and it does what it does, well. But once you use more than that or think "that'd be useful..." you would never go back to one.

Birds... you don't use the functions I use on a daily basis and require. No tuner, Not Chequered, Not Racepace pump out tunes that can't be touched up and modified on the road. Maybe you're OK with a good enough tune that feels right. Maybe you're not like me and will look at graphs and change a fuel cell months after the fact because the AFR is out by 0.5 in a certain cell I barely hit. Cars change. I know what mine is doing and a fuel pump failing will never kill me, neither will a filter, neither will any of this. It's not the car will explode under load. It's ALLLLLLL the stuff that is NOT full load that you can DIY. Saving you tuning time, if you're in to that, too. Plus you get a car that really DOES drive like a factory car. Trust me when I say your car will feel absolutely fine blasting down the street on boost at 13:1 AFR or 14:1 AFR. Ever drive the car and have a strange miss? Going back in time and seeing what happened is un-losable once you can. Hand controllers are great, but a laptop is better. Learn your car and your setup and within a short period of time you'll just be borrowing the dyno instead of being at the mercy of someone tuning your car for you. Knowing wtf they are doing and why and how is really quite rewarding. But I do. Even not having access to flex is an instant game breaker. Like it could do everything EXCEPT flex and yep, sorry, game breaker. These are features that I live and use all the time. Not everyone does, but I do and I would certainly never go back. Cold starts across an entire year? Not a problem. If it is a problem, you can just sort it out. The power FC is a basic unit which can give the same features of essentially a factory tuned ECU. I really, really, like the extra features and all I've said is if someone said "I don't have an ECU, what would you buy?" a PowerFC is never on that list. It's just not. It's the same reason you wouldn't suggest someone put a T40Z or HKS T51R on their car in 2016, but you wouldn't necessarily destroy for no reason.

That's great, but like I said - Maybe you can live without knowing. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I use *all* of the features I listed, it has plenty more I don't, and any other major ECU will do this too (or more, like Traction control on Motec, etc). They do the job. They can provide a tune to an otherwise untenable car. Power FC can't do anything ANYTHING that another ECU can, and a lot of things provide more features than a PowerFC. Your "not needed" is my "holy shit that saved my engine" or "useful diagnostic tool". There's no reason to choose a PowerFC over anything. Ever. Unless you got it essentially for free. The argument can be made that the PFC is enough. It can't be made that it's better.

It doesn't do antilag, boost by gear, flex fuel, (boost, starting, timing, etc) have a MAP sensor, have a controller I can use on a damn PC... It doesn't auto log while the car is running so I can go back and see what HAPPENED. It doesn't have 5 channel engine protection. Won't run a wideband (I think?) Won't run a wideband controller. These are minimum requirements for an ECU. Never had issues with the CAS on mine. If you don't think a tune needs a touchup or monitoring then ... well, lets say once you see it you can't unsee it or live happily without it.

I don't "have" to. I choose to. And I have a haltech, fyi. With a PowerFC you're at the mercy of whatever happened at the tuner. That's nowhere NEAR enough to be confident in any tune. Hand controller is a joke when you can interact with an actual ECU. PowerFC, the official ECU of "Well, it was already there when I got the car..." or "I need something tunable and my stock ECU is not tunable". But if you're there, ANY option beats it out.

But I carry a laptop and can fully tune my car wherever I go, with better functionality than a hand controller

GTX3076 isn't bad (I made 400kw on one) but again it's not amazingly paired. If I were you I'd consider a GTX3071, or maybe even a GTX2971. Twin scroll if you can. External gate if you can. But you could bolt this all to a standard manifold and save the hassle, and cost, for minimal loss and change the manifold later if you're upset about how it performs. Budget? GTX3071R on std manifold, will look very stock. Could probably even escape with an internal gate. Much less hassle. Full retard? Borg Warner

Or you could Nistune, which is better in literally every way.

How can two ECU's that work perfectly on a R34 magically not work on a new car? But -5's are really never the answer for anything, so I'll assume it's a 26 in which case Nistune is the answer. Also, -9's are the answer. Also there's probably a plugin ECU for what you're doing. Seriously the only reason for PowerFC is "it already had a powerfc in it"

Should have bought my big single sedan The answer is Nistune OR the R34 plugin GTT ecu from Haltech. Has all the features you want and 0 wiring, easy to tune, local, etc. Hard to argue against.

The person you bought the engine from should know, I never got asked for the Rego for the engine that I provided, ever. They just ran the number to make sure the engine wasn't flagged as stolen. Have changed engine numbers at Vicroads like 4-5 times now. Never once got asked for the rego of the car the engine came from. Also no reason to remove Nistune ever, so the best way to remove it is not remove it.

Hi folks - I registered but it looks like I will need to cancel as 'may be right for Friday' isn't enough for me to just eat the entry fee. As the event isn't full, is it possible to change from pre-paid to pay on the day (provided the event does not fill?) Was looking forward to rolling my car or embedding it into a wall for all to see Apologies if too late to cancel/refund now. Only paid yesterday. Unsure of who to contact/call for this kind of thing!

OK...I'll pay that.. It is pretty clear a lot of the Facebook group queries certainly consult FB before google..

True, its probably best you can either a) Vouch for the car/owner and b) Absolutely know what you are looking at. It can obviously burn you badly, but if you know what you are doing its the way forward. However usually done through having been burned in the past, but hey 99% of people here on SAU will know what they are doing regarding other people's projects and know when to spot a bad apple