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Paid, Faxing forms tonight

Forms Finally sent. Been having All kinds of internet, computer, printer and scaner problems. Call me if any probs

paid. will send forms through soon

Ok just clearing a few things up. I'm not actually the one racing. It is my car but on the form I put down "Megan Vansteensel" as the driver. The reason my licence number is not on there is because it's expired and I wont be there to renew it. Megan will be the one driving the car and she will be purchasing her membership and licence on the day. Is that all cool?

Payed for Megan Van will fax forms tomorrow. She will buy membership and licence on the day

I'm just that good I can drive two cars at once lol

Hey Bec. Yeah I'll be staying there this time with the misses. She doesn't like staying with my relo's anymore lol. Chuck us down for Friday and Saturday night, Daniel and Megan Thanks

Faxed the forms through earlier this arvo. I did make a mistake on them though. The rego should be "*** 655" not what I put down lol hope it doesn't cause a problem lol

Paid, will fax forms tomorrow

I never suggested that fines were ment for P-Plater, nor was my post targeting them, however I can see how it could be taken that way. I was just going along with Skaifie on how we need more training and experience for younger drivers. Yes there are laws and yes you should obey them, that goes for everyone, I do not disagree with you there. Especially in the case of school zone at 3:00 in the afternoon. However as for my four cylinder proposal, perhaps you should look more into it. A VN commodore is only about 100kg heavier than an S13-15. Stock non turbo SR20 make between 100kw-125kw (Correct me if I'm wrong please, I'm not an SR20 expert lol) and the stock VN V6 made about 125kw (Again corrections). Now I'm sure being a larger displacement, the V6 will have more torque yes? If so, which car do you think is going to be faster from 60km/h, 80km/h or 100km/h? It's the distance in which it takes these drivers to reach the high speeds that they kill themselves at is what we need to stop young drivers from achieving. You don't hear of many young drivers, or older drivers for that manner in fatal accident on 100km/h highways. I'm not saying you don't hear about them, because we do! Most seem to be in place where the speed has been deemed safe to drive at 80km/h or below. With Skaifes proposal of 140km/h speeds at off peek times on some roads, I see no problem in letting P-Plate drivers drive at these speeds. In doing so they gain the experience to handle there car at higher speeds and can see how the speed affects there car. After four years of driving in their four cylinder car at speeds up to 140km/h, SAFELY, they with have the experience and skill base to handle a higher powered car. Daniel P.S quote "......make it unaffordable to speed and to break the road rules and watch the number fines tumble. Hearing about a friend getting a $1500 fine will soon motivate people to obey the road rules. They will have no choice, if they do they get financially hammered, most families cant afford to fork out $1500 so then a beautiful thing happens people start forcing each other to obey the road rules in order to not get fined, so the government doesnt need to ram home that message......" It wont stop everyone from speeding. They know it's illegal in the first place yet they do it anyway. It will stop a lot of people yes for example you and me(Theres no way I want to fork out $1500 for speeding) but for those whom don't pay attention to speed signs it will have no affect, and they are the ones having the accidents

I'll come down and give it a go for show of numbers. I'd like to give my supra a go but it's not working at the moment so I'll just have to see what I can get out of the Sprinter lol. Last place anyone? lol

I'm going to have to disagree with you there 'FrangaR33'. Uping the fines and penalties wont stop people from speeding and killing themselves. We all know it's illegal to speed yet people do it anyway. 5x the points, 5x the fine, people will still continue to break the law. Look at all these kids killing themselves; they know they can only have one passenger, they know they can only drive at 60km/h on hypothetical road, yet they still pack their car with five of their good mates and go flying down the road at 160km/h into their neighbors tree. So worse fines wont stop them doing it. Restricting what they can drive will help immensely. Going off what 'saff_cossie' was saying, restricting P-Platers to four cylinder vehicles, I think, will reduce our road toll. It takes much more time for a four cylinder to get to that tree hitting 160km/h than a Commodore/Falcon. Being forced to drive a lower powered vehicle for four years will give new drivers a chance to develop driving skills. I bought my first car at 16. It was a 1982 Toyota Celica. Now this car is quite capable of driving at 200km/h, however, it will take about fifteen minutes to get to that speed. Head to head, my car was able to keep up with my mates brand new magnate ute until 60km/h, after that though it was a different story. During my time as a P-Plater I learned many driving skills such as, heel and tow, clutch kicking, threshold breaking and weight transfer. All skills you don't need a high powered car to learn. Now sorry to all you P-Platerd that are shouting at me saying,"But I need my V6 Commodore/4Letre Falcon Ute for work". Well did you guys know that they have 4 cylinder utes that have more than enough torque for your working purposes? Toyota have their Hilux's, Mazda have their Bravo's, and I'm sure there are many other vehicles out there that can do the job. Having developed my new driving skills I now feel more experienced and ready to handle high power cars, as would most drivers if they took this course of action. Sorry for the long read guys lol Daniel

Alright my worst ever lol Thanx Birds

My AE86 only has about 70kw at the wheels And I seem to come around 25th every time. I haven't seen what place I came this time yet as I can't seem to get the damn file open but I'm guessing I came around that again lol The lighter weight of my car helps me keep a higher speed through those tighter corners as well as a shorter breaking distance. When it comes to the long wang though, I don't have the power to get up to speed so my best times are around the 1.00s to 1.05s mark

Ok forms sent