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was my first thought too...

yes...its not your problem if thats what your asking

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seeme to be no point getting antisurge with these turbos mate.. Mine and Jez... td06 with no antisurge >>..300kws..compressors maxed out Simons and Battery.. t67 no antisurge >> 350kws ++++ dori changed to antisurge and lost 30kw.. .Moral of the story is ....Dont get antisurge

hahahahaha ...almost identical to my Kando , But on 98 with IG....nice work Stao....

+1 what battery said.. Hey Mark.. You will be happy to know I have just spent the last 2 hours writing up a tutorial with just about everything you need to know on how to fit top feeds to an R33 mate... It is subject to moderator approval so should be in the Tutorial section in a day or 2...

Okie dokie, I decided to just write a tutorial .. Because so many people keep asking In FI and everybody wants to run ID injectors these days and who can blame them when the results speak for themselves.. Im gunna show you the basics for fitting them under the standard plenum on the 33... Im not going to bother telling you that you need to remove you intake pipe and everything hanging off it because that is obvious, but if you are not sure how to do that see here>>> http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/topic/140970-injectors-how-to-removereplaceupgrade/page__p__2985226__hl__rb25%20injector%20__fromsearch__1#entry2985226 Now you will need some injectors The injectors I used were 750cc XSPURTS Cute litte buggers hey....These are a 40mm length injector almost identical to ID injectors..they're also available in 2000cc but if you need injectors this big your probably not running the stock plenum anymore ID injectors (1000cc and 2000cc) are 48mm when you take the extension of them and would probably fit as well, I am waiting for someone to confirm this though as Im yet to see it done..It is a very tight fit mainly due to the hose plumbed in underneath the back of the plenum..But I'm fairly confident an extra 8mm would squeeze in there..if not it is possible to machine down the manifold spacers for a little extra room.. Your looking at about 600 to 700$ for injectors Things you will need you will need the correct plug adapters to suit..these are relatively inexpensive and you injector supplier might even throw them in if you ask nicely..you will need to wire these into your loom..pretty easy only 2 wires and it doesnt matter which way they go..Aternatively you can get plugin adapters, they look something like this and simply plugin.. you will need a fuel rail, no need to spend heaps as these are available for 100$..Do not get a twin entry rail if possible as the extra fitting in the middle can be troublesome..Also beware that if you get a rail to fit a NEO RB25 you will need to machine down or replace the 2 bolt spacers to about 6 or 7mm high .. you can then use the original fuel rail bolts.. if you have 48mm injectors you may need longer bolts and 15mm spacers, the ones that come with your rail kit are too long.. you will need an adjustable -6 fuel regulator, available from 50$ to 500$..take your pick.. you will need a fuel pressure gauge so you can set your required pressure..I got one for 20$ at a speed shop but some fuel regs come with them You will need about 1 mtre of 5/8 fuel hose, grab 2mtrs to be safe, about 50$ max..get a good quality hose like Gates if you plan to run e85 ...check with your supplier for alcohol compatible hoses You will need at least 1 90 degree -6 or larger fitting for the back of the fuel rail, looks like this your fuel rail kit will probably come with a straight through fitting which wont work.. you may also need other -6 fittings for the fuel return bottom of the reg..I was advised not to put a 90 degree bend here as fuel needs to be able to exit the reg as quickly as possibly to maintain proper pressure. However a 45 degree should be fine..I used a straight fitting and it nearly fouls on me manifold which is not ideal.. you will need hose clamps, at least 4...ask for proper fuel injection hose clamps they are much better than regular ones..Only 1 or 2$ each depending where you get them.. ^^^^The one on the left is the one you want ^^^^ Once you have it all you will need your new rail ready to go, It should look something like this Some things to note, NB..always use some lube when inserting injectors into rail, WD40 is fine, to make sure the o-rings dont grab and twist out of shape..Also there is no need to use any sealant on the fittings An fittings will seal when tightened, helps to spray a little lube on them as well.. NB.. I attached my reg at the end of the rail in the original location..you do not have to do it this way..the reg can just as easily be placed anywhere in the engine bay you choose and joined to the rail via a hose..this may require some additional fittings.. Hot Tip..attach a lenght of fuel hose to the back end of the rail now as it will be near impossible to do once the rail is in Now the tricky bit, insert the rail..you will need to slide in from the front and twist and wriggle to find its sweet spot.. I would love to show you a video but i didnt make one, but if you got the old rail out you will figure it out.. once in will look something like this line it all up, I highly advise test fitting this first and dont expect a perfect fit straight away.. When it looks right spray the o-rings with some lube and start to tighten the 2 botls that hold it in.. Take extra care when doin so to make sure it is not pressing on anything as you tighten them. The o-rings should press very firmly into the manifolds spacers Then make sure all wires are tied up and not left to rest on anything that will get hot and melt them I broke this plug the first time when doin mine as the reg hit against it as you can see its very close but by twisting the reg a little I got it to fit.. So yeah, Take care ... now to attach some hoses...heres an image of my layout.. Now as you can see the hose from the fuel filter runs up around the back to the rail, I put the gauge in this line. You can also attach the gauge to your the auxillary port in your fuel reg, the choice is yours but you CANNOT place it in the return line..make sure all hoses are tied up and clear of anything that may get hot..the last thing you want is a melted fuel line = FIRE!!! Then run a fuel hose from the bottom of your regulator to the dampner... Attach the small vacumn line to the regulator and cable tie.. Double check everything you have done and switch ignition to on and prime the pump.. >>>TRIPLE CHECK FOR LEAKS.. Once you are satisifed nothings leaking you need to set your fuel pressure..this is done by adjusting the small bolt on your reg..you want to aim for about 3bar or 43psi in most applications heres a how to.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c12jPdR2rJg And thats it your all done.... Good luck

you can xspurts or IDs in with the stock plenum on a 33 ,fuel rail is only 100$ regs arent too expensive either, fuel hose is cheap also and you will need a pressure gauge which is 20$.. I got.xspurts in 750cc in 40mm, which are shorter than IDs which are 48mm, so makes for an easier fit,, I think both will fit, I'm yet too see IDs with stock plenum but it could be done.. .Injector will cost you 6-700$ and they are amongst the best..Ask anyone and they will tell you they are great to tune, great at idle and great for economy too... heres mine fitted up, I got them in without removing the plenum, tricky but possible fuel rail http://goodiesdirect...&product_id=405 Do it once, do it right...

I see the problem, theres a dragon is stuck in your exhaust...

yeah get good quality big cc injectors straight up 740s will cover you for alot of power...just saves headaches should you wish to upgrade later.... get big cc cheapo injectors now and you risk a crappy idle and bad fuel economy...

these DWs 740s should do the trick, currently on sale for 435$ Absolute bargain..., ignore the page price I got emailed ...this price ^^ http://www.horsepowe.../Nissan/Skyline

yeah but it looked better on e85 Sportage is looking good Stao

so its the same as the one done last week on e85 or a different one..

thats an internal gate yeah??

I do wish I had mine tested now and if i have to pull them out again I will do so.. But I dont see how 6 injectors the same milled on the same machine could have that much variance unless they were done by the dodgy brothers...

see Baxter

^^tis e85 there everywhere here now, cant believe those 2 shell servos just before the Westgate bridge are now Uniteds..

yeah theres a few ....should get you 240-260...

I didn't mean bend it, I mean use a hose to join the 2 ports..so you keep the original coolant flow happening but you bypass the turbo..othrwise your pushing coolant down a dead end Anyway no mind I'm sure you will work it all out

Crans you could just take the hose that goes around the back and plumb it straight into the block where the other water line is...probably the easiest way

I probably wont bother anyway but it keeps me ammused thinking about it..

ok looked into it a bit..cant easily run a reg cause its a non-return fuel system..I Know the honda ecu is pretty tricky, runs dual widebands and has lot of self learning features whether or not this will work in my favour or against im not sure...Apparently they get upset when cats are removed the thread i read where a guy just filled up with e85, said it was running 18:1 afrs...oddly enough it lost power on dyno but was faster than other cars the same...

Haha I was putting mine over a picture of yours on the computer, I was gunna trace it but gave up..its almost identical though with yours just dipping a Little between 4-6rpm That's the same size as my cooler piping I guess there is hope for it yet

Yeah you can see my 20g making more on the green line but that was 21.5 psi which is 4psi more than the blue line and the gains were insignificant..As Roy said the little comp just can't push any harder ,its giving all she can give..especially on my setup..If I get a better manifold and plazmaman plenum and better cooler it could possibly push for a little more.. But looking at the comparison I would sooner just get a T67 than push this any further. Not sure why battery didn't push more in..