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Really, I was expecting closer to 300 by then. . I think if we can match Mick-o GTX results or even get close, we're winning.. Its a big ask of the little kando but..

It is a good result, but 280 @ 17-18psi is what we always expected.. Bit worried about the high end surge though. think I have acquired an npc farbotic clutch and flywheel on the cheap...woop woop.

lol, i knew you would have a rant... *Artz goes to look up meaning of dissonance *

I hope your not gunna hold out on results all day again jez..your having a good week ey

yeah he does, all we're saying is maybe it wouldn't hurt to do some R & D on some of those other cars as well.. Maybe they figure the market isnt worth it I dunno

haha so you watched that video...Glad you liked it... The Porsches bit made me lol...its funny cause its true.. Go looking for performance parts for skyline these days and half of it is discontinued, or like HKS turbos so ridiculously overpriced its not feasable.. Which leaves you either hunting for good s/h parts or buying copies from china..I mean who buys a "REAL" Greddy intake plenum anymore... but we are making more power now with copies than people were with the original stuff 10 years ago.. Those APS/AVO style housings do still sell quite well I have been told, (though could have been part of a sales pitch) they havent wasted time messing about with the design to make it better, they did enough R & D to make a workable sellable item then left it to sell and enjoyed the benefits while they worked on other ventures..Think of it like a turbo that has been pushed to to the point of deminishing returns..The original HG range was good and value for money, but putting so much time into this new product that the value has gone up considerably for what seems like very little gain, has kind of spoilt it..I mean even if it is a better turbo, the value isn't really there when I can get a brand new garrett for around the same price, it will have far better resale as it has a well recognized brand name and can be fitted to any engine..Alternatively I can just buy a Kando and throw it in the bin when im doen with it, but an ss1 can only really be bolted to a skyline so its use is limited.. Also no race win can be contributed to a turbo alone when there is so many other components that contribute to an overall result.... There is already a healthy range of HG turbos and as you say, maybe it would be better to broaden their horizons and work on a range of generic turbos.. Although I'm sure HG has learnt MANY valuable lessons in this R & D, and I probably shouldnt be carrying on telling them how to run their business in any case.. At the end of the day Stao is a devoted skyline nut more than many of us so deserves the respect..

There is some truth to this and as much as I can admire HGs work, I cant help but feel that they maybe shooting themselves in the foot by constantly working on new technology for what is now an old car...lets face the RB is a dying breed and pretty soon its going to be cheaper and easier to just buy a crate engine chev to stick in it Pretty much what can be done to skylines has been done, to the point where you can now buy a china copy of what was once a great turbo, that is comparable in quality for well under a grand.. There is no chance of cornering the market as there is just too many options for them and while you may have your niche market which is stock looking turbo upgrades its far from a cash cow unless you broaden your horizons to include a large variety of vehicles.... There is so many new cars on the market now with turbos, alot of fords and most of the mazda range are turbocharged now, not to mention all the turbo diesels out now and yes there is still imports. Sure they are FWD and dont make 300kw easily making them harder to brag about, not to mention the other issues like tunable ecus etc.. but they are popping up everywhere on the second hand market now, they do respond well to mods cause the engines are still fresh and best of all cops dont know what they're looking at when they pop the hood... Think about it most of these are small trendy family or daily cars owned by middle class people, what better than a cheap easy upgrade turbo you can probably do yourself in the garage with a funky name like hypergear to give your daily runabout some extra poke to show off to your mates with.. This is where I would be focusing my efforts anyway, have the skills, the knowledge, the equipment, an awesome tuner and fresh ECU maker..put it all together and get in early or risk getting left behind..

So you will be throwing the kando in the bin now?

So what your saying in a nutshell, is that it's more responsive..

Is that same turbo you have birds?

Asshole = gtscott

like most things on the internet, people only come here to complain when it doesnt work.. but even a garret 3076r for instance, known performer..some people easily make well over 350kw with them while others struggle to crack 300kw.. Stao results are perfectly indicative of what his turbos can do..there are no tricks or gimmicks to the results just a shitload of R & D..Too many people think they can just slap this on for 1500$ and get the same result, but it doesnt always work that way..

^^^melbun...text him...

lol...yeah i was hoping to see this guy blast past

OMG>>>only 400hp and only 2.4 megapixels

this lamo only has 400hp ooo.. another one

the dogs attack the car

those crazy kiwis

or this one has cool music

I dont know how many kws it has, but I would say it has enough yeah.... what about this one

here Ron I found your car man...your mates will luv it ..anything less will just be gay and that is the last time I contribute something vaguely useful to this thread...

Hahaha

9000 wuts ?

9000 wuts ?