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Wow, Telstra pricing certainly seals it, doesn't it?! Of course you could also check pricing from other ISPs and see what the norm is, couldn't you? Or you could pull an Abbott and use selective data to misconstrue the truth. Let's look at iiNet - 100/100Gb @ 25/5 - $70/month which include Nodephone - so for all intents and purposes $40/month for 100/100 at a static 25/5.... 500/500 @ 100/40 - $100/month including Nodephone - Again, essentially $70/month for potentially 1Tb at 100/40.... NBN-1 (Light Users)20GB + 20GB(peak + offpeak)$1.75 per GBNBN-2 (Medium Users)100GB + 100GB(peak + offpeak)$0.40 per GBNBN-3 (Heavy Users)500GB + 500GB(peak + offpeak)$0.10 per GB Standard12/1 Mbps*Fast25/5 Mbps*Faster50/20 Mbps*Fastest100/40 Mbps* your plan $99.95 per month. Minimum total cost over a 24 month contract on the NBN-3 plan (500GB + 500GB) + fastest turbo pack is $2398.80. * These are maximum NBN access port speeds. Data transfer speeds to individual premises may differ. For further information, visit our article on NBN performance. Internode - NBN Fibre Broadband Plans Monthly Price & Quota 30 GB 300 GB 600 GB 1,000 GB Bronze - 12/1 Mbps * $49.95 †$69.95 †$89.95 †$139.95 †Bronze Standard Unit Cost of 1 GB ˆ $1.67 ˆ $0.23 ˆ $0.15 ˆ $0.14 ˆ Silver - 25/5 Mbps * $54.95 †$74.95 †$94.95 †$144.95 †Silver Standard Unit Cost of 1 GB ˆ $1.83 ˆ $0.25 ˆ $0.16 ˆ $0.14 ˆ Gold - 50/20 Mbps * $64.95 †$84.95 †$104.95 †$154.95 †Gold Standard Unit Cost of 1 GB ˆ $2.17 ˆ $0.28 ˆ $0.17 ˆ $0.15 ˆ Platinum - 100/40 Mbps * $74.95 †$94.95 †$114.95 †$164.95 †Platinum Standard Unit Cost of 1 GB ˆ $2.50 ˆ $0.32 ˆ $0.19 ˆ $0.16 ˆ † Read more: Total Minimum Prices | Setup Fees | Equipment Requirements | Terms & Conditions * These are the nominal NBN access port speeds, and are not necessarily indicative of actual Internet data transfer speeds - learn more about NBN Fibre speeds and performance. ˆ The Standard Unit Cost is for 1 GB of data included in plan. Excess data usage is shaped. There are just two examples demonstrating that you are talking out your ass. iiNet has taken the lions share of NBN customers thus far and it's not hard to see why. I currently pay $70/month for 60Gb of average at best ADSL2 plus phone and call costs. On average we pay about $110-$120/month for fixed phone and 60Gb. With iiNet and NBN I'd pay $80 for 100/100 @50/20 saving myself a not inconsiderable $30-40/month while getting more download at faster speeds and far more reliability Telstra is a f**king rip off. They always have been, and according to the shitty NBN pricing, it looks like they always will be.

This is by no means exhaustive, but as an example of what the NBN will do, we have 1800 mortgage brokers plus their support staff using our web based CRM software all over the country. Many of them work from home and almost all of them visit their clients at home. Faster, RELIABLE, internet will make them more productive. On top of that we can expand the range of offerings knowing that most people will have the bandwidth and reliability to use them. FTTH is the best solution for a wealthy nation like Australia, and make no mistake, Australia is one of the wealthiest nations on earth. The cost of FTTH is very small in the grand scheme of things.

That pipe is already laid. Check the map I linked earlier. There are more planned, too. The whole argument about our pipe out being too small to make use of the NBN is yet another baseless, factless argument

Hahahaha....now you're arguing against the Corporate Plan. The same plan which contains figures, updates and an explanation of the assumptions underlying the plan and how they came about. Yet you still argue it's hollow and in the same breath claim the NBN will cost $60B plus which is based on Tony Abbott, Mr "I'm no tech head", and nothing more. The NBN will miss targets and it will achieve targets. That is inevitable. No undertaking of this size has ever been attempted in Australia before so it is new ground but the brains behind it are robust - they aren't a bunch of politico lackys brought in to do the bidding of the government of the day. They are genuine experts with little to gain, everything to lose is shit goes majorly pear shaped. But still you will argue on based on your "expert" opinion. You're really out of your depth in this discussion.

125mph in a 1400ish KG car should be able to net a 10, should it not?

WTF? It's barely started? Are you insane? You run a business yet cannot fathom the task of setting up a company from scratch which has been tasked with rolling out a $50B fiber network across a land mass the size of North America? That's selective (nay, pure ignorance) at best, intentionally misleading at worst. On top of that it took 9+ months longer than planned to nut out a deal with Telstra. ACCC also held up proceedings while they went over the deal. All that's gone now and NBN Co are in "ramp up" and have already exceeded their original "homes per day" target and are hitting over 6,000 homes per day now. Facts. There are still over 10,000,000 fixed voice service in AUS. Down from ~11.5 a few years ago, but the trend is somewhat steady. With the roll out of the NBN I would expect fixed line subscription to go up again. Without looking into it I would assume that cost is the main factor behind the small decline in fixed line services. After all, $30 just to have the line in is a rort, not to mention the relatively exorbitant call costs (which is a ploy by Telstra to get people OFF their copper network as it's such a shambles). So there's still massive call for fixed phone services. I don't know what business you're in, but to suggest that we don't need fixed broadband cause you have been able to get by without it is stupid. On, and 8.2.4 and beyond - Oooh look, more facts! Demand for higher tier speeds is greater but they have left forecasting where it was in the original plan. This is likely so they can be pleasantly surprised by revenue later on down the track, i reckon. It's a inbuilt good news story. The information is out there, you just have to find it (I recommend starting at the NBN Corporate Plan, you know, the one which was updated in August last year). And what is it with this 2015 end time BS? They are planning on having ~3.5 million homes passed by then. That's not the end of it. They have over 10 million premises to connect. The build will continue until at least 2021. You don't even know the basic facts of the build. Why can't you discuss facts? Again, what is this unknown expense bullshit. Seriously, NBN Co have stated the cost and so far it's tracking pretty friggin' close to it in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure it will increase over time, but so far there is NOTHING to suggest that it will "blow out" to $60B or anything even approaching that. Facts dude, facts. Use the data available to form your argument, not some bullshit innuendo like the crap that dribbles out of Turnfail and Flabbot and their bunch of merry f**kwits. Mike Quigley is FAR more authoritative on the matters of the NBN than the Noalition. Look what he has had to say on the matter.

Ye gads! Look overseas for examples of why this idea is folly. The US is case in point. A number of carriers over there tried and failed at using LTE for fixed broadband replacement. It's now been re-repositioned as a complimentary technology, not as a substitute for fixed. I believe there is now only one carrier in the US trying to sell wireless as a fixed replacement. People are NOT giving up fixed broadband for mobile. They are using them together to remain connected everywhere and to have the required bandwidth to do more than browse Facebook. The NBN will be covering it's operation costs and begin paying back the borrowings with interest in the not too distant future. They actually underestimated the number of people electing for higher tiered connections which means more money to them. As for when it's paid back, who cares? It's like a negatively, and then positively geared investment. Sure, it's costing money now but soon rent will increase to the point it overtakes the expense and it will become "positively geared". On top of that it's a mega asset that can be liquidated in the future if required to more than cover the cost. There is NOT unknown. We KNOW wireless cannot compete with fiber as a value proposition nor for pure bandwidth. Facts. Why is it so difficult for people to deal in facts these days?

Well you've demonstrated is you have no idea. It was originally slated to cost around $40B with $30ish coming from the government, the rest from investors. The government can borrow what they need at very low interest rates (>3%) thanks to a AAA/AAA/AAA credit rating and the fact it's for Capex expenditure. It's risen to around $43B which is around 5% which, in a project of this scale, is simply f**k all. Even if it ends up costing $60B it'll still be chump change. On top of that it's an asset which can be sold to recoup most if not all the cost. On top of that it's going to provide a return through subscribers. That $30B cost was the cost to build, I'm not sure why the subscription rate matters. What that does affect is the revenue. With the deal the government has struck up with Telstra, every household WILL be on it 18 months after it's available, whether they like it or not. The net result will be cheaper telecommunications for the household (it cost $30 just to have a fixed line, before calls or internet, which most housholds still have whereas $60 will get you all local and national calls and 20/20 of 12/1 internet) and revenue for NBN Co. As for the copper network, it's f**ked beyond your wildest dreams. Maintenance was ceased the day it was privatised, long before the NBN was mentioned. I know this for fact - my father-in-law was one of the people responsible for rolling our ADSL in Australia. He knows better than anyone the state of the copper, and it's rooted. There is MASSIVE investment going on in undersea cables at the moment - yet more evidence you haven't got a clue about this - http://www.cablemap.info/ Since '07 there's been a 6.4Tb link ti Singapore and a 1.92Tb link to Guam, which is a central hub in the Pacific and links to just about every continent. There's also Telstra Endevour and there's a shit load more bandwidth planned. Wireless can NEVER match fiber for bandwidth, dollar for dollar, not even close. That said, it IS being looked into. It's being used to cover the 7% of people for whom it simply is not economically feasible to run fiber to. Seriously, suggesting wireless is a competitor for fiber is so phenomenally ignorant. There is no technology on the horizon which is going to get anywhere near fiber for bandwidth. All research at the moment is going into how to make fiber run faster which is more or less the terminals at either end, not the fiber itself. Physics is the limiting factor here. Data travels at near enough the speed of light, going faster is simply impossible. And 4G is f**ked. Are you on the 4G network? I have been since the Velocity was released which was the first 4G product you could buy and I've gone from ~40Mb down, ~40Mb up to around 6Mb down, 10Mb up on a good day. Wireless suffers congestion and the only way around it is more towers which means more money. Seriously dude, facts. Look at the facts. You claim to be non-partisan about this but what you've actually demonstrated is ignorance. I am heavily partisan but I've also taken the time to learn about what's on offer and the ALP offering is leagues ahead of the Noalition or any other possibilities.

I'm in the North East, Hurstbridge to be exact. Go an '01 R1 that's my daily. Takes me to the city and back every day.

Evemon is you best resource in Eve when it comes to training. http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ Figure out what you want to do and plan it properly. For casualish funtimes in C3/4 wormholes a Legion is a good choice especially if you have a couple. My mate and used to dual box and do C4s with three Legions and a Pally buff ship. PVP was always funtimes, too. We'd often bait with a single Legion. Someone would warp in on us, we'd pop the other two out of cloak and ground and pound. I'm tempted to get back into it although I dropped a bunch of f-bombs and c-bombs in the forums ages ago when CCP announced that Dust 514 would be PS3 only....I swore not to give them any more of my money...

You've got Buckley's and f**k-all chance.

They've factored in the wages into the build time. It's going to be more or less complete within the time frame they said. Maybe it won't be 100%, but it'll be close. NBN Co are passing thousands of homes per day. The Noalition crap on about it being a year behind but that's simplifying a complex scenario. The main reason it's behind is because the Telstra deal and ACCC tick took the best part of a year longer than expected. The NBN is now in ramp up and will be passing (if it's not already) 6000 homes a day. On top of that, wages aren't the big cost. The big cost is buying pit access ($11B) and the hardware required to do it. What's funny about this is the same people I speak to who piss and moan about the government assing about instead of getting shit done are the same people crying that the government should do a shitty half assed FTTN rather than just doing it properly the first time. $3B a year for the next 15 years to construct while at the same time being offset by increasing revenues (to the point where revenue will be larger than the cost) is simply f**k all in the grand scheme of things. Australia can afford it and afford it easily.

Velly noice. Stags look really good in white. Whereabouts in Melb are you?

Do you mean the clutch slave cylinder? So it's meant to be bolted to the outside of the box and it pushed on the clutch fork? If so, you should be able to adjust the master cylinder or clutch pedal (I'm not 100% sure where it is on Skylines) so it takes pressure off the slave, allowing you to bolt it into place. You can then tighten it back up.

The filter died ages ago.

Yet more total bullshit. The bloody thing is going to provide a ROI FFS. How is that a waste? Our copper network is f**ked. That's all there is to it. It has to be replaced and fiber is the best thing to do it with. It's not going to cost double. The Noalition would like you to believe it is, but they are arguing against facts using bullshit.

Yeah, cause you're gunna get a good min'n'match for $7k. RB25 is the best possible option for someone on that budget.

Don't be afraid of the learning curve. The learning curve means you don't find a great deal of kids playing it.

Eve is awesome, but a steeeeeep learning curve. It also helps to have people to play with and also note that nightly server maintenance is an hour long and is at a shitty time for AU players. Wow is still the greatest game ever made although a total time sync. I spent five years on it and could happily have spent the last three or so on it only for the whole wife, kid and job thing. I've played a few others, none of which are noteworthy.

That's a good point, Troy. Stao only ever states "measured" figures. I don't think the dyno operators falsify figures, but it does highlight the limitations of a dyno. They are best used for comparative power figures and loading motors for tuning, not for measuring outright power. In fact I reckon the best dyno would simply not have the axis labelled. You don't know how much actual power is being made but you can compare one graph with another and figure out if you've gone forwards or backwards.

Sealed system watercooling is really good but arguably no better than a good air cooler. A good air cooler is cheaper, quieter and more reliable. Room temps don't affect either more or less. I was set on WC'ing but after months of research simply couldn't bring myself to do it. Win 8 is awesome and you shouldn't have any compatibility issues.

I believe they are disabled as part of the compliance requirements. Would be pretty cool to get it working again. If not, just leave it be and hang onto the remote.

Personally, i'd do this: Switch RAM to http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47838-corsair_vengeance_cml16gx3m2a1600c10_16gb_2x8gb_ddr3 - 16Gb is waaaay more than enough and the performance difference is negligible - it's also low profile to allow http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-aa16616-noctua_nhd14_cpu_cooler_does_not_support_socket_2011 instead of the H100. H100s = noisy and pumps fail regularly. Get Win 8 instead of 7. 8 is awesome and the future. 7 is awesome and the past. Stay with the times - the learning curve is minuscule. Take your Sammy back and try and exchange it for a Crucial, SanDisk, Intel 3** or Corsair. Samsung seems to have taken a step back from the 830 to the 840. Reliability has decreased with the 840s. The rest is on the money.

Awesome. What was the final cost and do you have the details of the guy who did it? Also, is it plated or he's just told you that it's rated to 2000kgs? Any pics?

700-800ks per week is ~$150-180/week in fuel alone. That's not cheap. Daily driving cars also places them under great stress, especially if you're in peak hour/stop start stuff. That flogs out cars quickly. Parts for Ms are not common, nor cheap, especially compared to Cs. Cs have huge compatibility with R and S series cars with suspension, gearbox and engine components being very interchangeable meaning parts for Cs are a dime a dozen and everywhere. And if you are daily driving your car, expect to replace parts every so often. Stageas are not sensible dailies. They are expensive to run and maintain. Sensible dailies are cheap to run and maintain and on top of that, ultimately disposable. A cheap falcadore on LPG is the best daily you will find. Cheap to run, maintain, will go for eons and when it does eventually die, head to the nearest wrecker, rip the plates off, take everything you want out of it and walk away. Deciding which Stagea is cheapest is like figuring out who's prettier, Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'Donnell. Both as ugly as sin, but if you absolutely had to choose you could probably put one in front of the other.