You are arguing a point against something i didn't even say. i didnt say nice or good cars,i said fancy cars whether it be a 20 grand v35 or a shitbox s13 with 8 grand worth of mods. And what?? You think these f**kheads doing skid at the lights in their complete shitbox driftwarrior cars wouldn't do the same with a more expensive car? More to the point whether you are a hoon or not, accidents happen when learning so why spend all the money so young yadayada.