Have a set of 17x8.5 & 17x9.5 on the inside of the rim it says 'off 33' no idea on what make came on the car when i first got it, tires are shagged on the rear fronts are thrashed with camber wear. some rims have more gutter rash than others, guess they just liked hitting those ones. been sitting in the shed taking up room was going to restore them sick of looking at them 300 ono wanna get rid of them rather soonish. shoot us a message if you want to snap them up 0435 938 997.