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Your right about the PAO thing I questioned the rep and thats what he said I must have confused what he said about the gulf 1/sougi. I just read the full specs then and seen that. There are no 20l or 205l sougi left in stock in our branches. I think gulf 1 works out at $1950+gst retail for a 205L. We have a new oil rep starting this week so it will be good to have one that actually cares and answers questions with enthusiasm. The new rep worked as a caltex oil rep for years and has recently changed sides. I bought my skyline today and it has 1000km before needing a service so I will have an in depth chat with him as to what I should use. I'm enjoying learning about oil there is so much misinformation out there and broscience. Further to the comment about gulf 1 being a track oil. Can I ask why you say that? I'm not saying thats not correct but I want to know why you say it as the rep suggested I use gulf 1 now that sougi 6000 is gone. Also as far as using hydraulic oil in your engine Birds said it perfectly. The additive packages in these oils is crucial. The agritrans and farmoil mentioned is quite often used in older tractors motors and its handy for farmers to buy a 205l over 6 different 20l but if they have a late model truck or tractor just because its the same viscosity doesn't mean it will do the job. Agritrans also meets power steering fluid specs in allot of agricultural machines. A hydraulic ISO 100 is equivalent to an SAE30 oil. We now have the power in order to convert people to gulf western to take an oil sample before an oil change. Supply them with free oil then take another sample when its due for the change. Gulf western is more then confident that we will beat other oils. This is being made so the selling tactic is no longer "We are cheaper", Its " we have an excellent top quality product and are willing to pay for the oil and testing to show you". I think this is an excellent strategy for all the people out there that don't understand that gulf western is cheaper because it doesn't have the overheads not because its made in a third world country and is bad quality. Similar to what is said above in the oil test we look at how much of the additive package is still in the oil and how much iron is in the oil..etc. We can only do this for larger companies, transport companies and industrial machinery companies but we are able to just buy the tests and the price includes the sample bottle and the results being mailed to you. Need to be a pro to read the stuff though.

I apologize I made a dick of myself Sougi 6000 is also discontinued, nearly fell off my seat when I asked that this morning. We are in the Ag industry and have very little sales of that sort of thing so I was out of the loop apparently. Reason they have discontinued it is the PAO base is too expensive as well and the market is small without getting into the advertising war. We only have 7 Sougi 6000 left in all our branches so you have more then us!! I didn't check how much 5000 we had. I had an in depth oil meeting with the gulf western rep as they are starting education for us and providing us with more selling tools (more on this later) which will shed some light on everything. At the end of the day if you are running high performance imports gulf 1 is a better choice then sougi and this is why they knocked it on the head. If your running a stock car the manufacturers suggested specs will do the job needed which for most skylines is a 10w30 premium energy. The problem with following the manufactures specs is they quite often look at the manufacturers country of origin to spec it to. Not only that but a 10w30 will be more fuel economic then a 10w40 so the second fuel economy comes into it your being short changed high performance quality oil for fuel economy. As engines get older and get more wear a 10w30 is not the best option. If you wanted to bump up your stock cars oil quality without hurting the pocket (not that gulf 1/sougi is all that expensive) the pick of the oils to use would be the syn-x 3000 (semi synthetic 10w40). IF you have a modified car the group 4 choice is sougi 6000 while it lasts, or for the same price gulf 1 group 5 oil. Gulf 1 also comes in 20L and 205L if you want to save extra $.

Hi everyone just joined as I'm negotiating my first skyline. Hope to have it by Friday. R32. I was talking to a friend about oils and asking what he uses in his chaser. He is running a synthetic castrol oil. I told him about sougi 6000 as the company I work for sells it and started googling for some reference's on people that have used it. Just wanted to clear a few things up and confirm another few things said about sougi. Firstly sougi isn't going anywhere, Gulf Western is an expanding company and will continue to offer a huge range of oils and grease. Having said that sougi 5000 is being culled which is the semi sythetic. Someone said earlier in the thread they were worried about more people finding out about it and the price going up. Gulf westerns prices are cheaper because it doesn't have the overheads of other companies as it doesn't have huge advertising campaigns. It relies on word of mouth and success stories similar to what I have been reading on here. Believe me if more people knew just through word of mouth it would be cheaper not more expensive. As far as dealers for GW that can be a problem depending on where you are. Our Toowoomba branch is the main supplier of GW oil throughout regional QLD. Our other Branches all around the country have less coverage as they aren't a central point for distribution. Having said this all auto stores like autopro, etc have the ability to buy gulf western if they are getting asked for it. The second freight becomes a part of it you can blow the price of oil out for sure. Clearly there is a market for quality oil and its bad that not everyone has access to it or knows of the advantages to using such an oil. If its within the rules I can link my workplaces website which has pricing an locations to help people find and price it? I didn't name it or the company because this is probably a pretty sus first post. We are more wholesalers of GW oil and have very little retail sales on it and its very disappointing that sougi doesn't sell all that well within our branch and wholesale distribution throughout our part of regional QLD. Look forward to using sougi myself with my staff discount To the sougi users. Do you still change every 5000k?