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In this case you are wrong. I don't know who made the kit you saw but I assure you all of our FMIC kits have all pipes thin wall aluminium mandrel bent in one piece. The anodized finish in the picture in this forum carries to all pipes fitted. We would never compromise a fittment to save a couple of bucks. As you said yourself the quality of our products are (in our opinion) second to none. We have many, very happy customers who can attest to that. Hope this clears up any doubts you had in us.

If you are refering to the price of the FORCE R33 kits, please note that they are far more comprehensive than the kits offered by Japanese manufacturers. We replace the cast pipe entering the throttle body, the pipe exiting the turbo, and the rubber tube entering the turbo. We have decided to go with this design as we feel it offers the shortest possible pipe length and the best bonnet clearance of any other kit design. Replacing the rubber intake tube also eliminates the problem of the tube collapsing, often experienced at higher power levels. (not forgetting the fact that it flows better and of course looks better!) Also, we build the intercoolers ourselves using cores built to our specifications. They feature true offset internal fins for maximum cooling efficiency. This is the same style of inner fin as used by the majority of Japanese manufacturers, except our cores are 73mm thick, as opposed to 60-65 for the Japanese equivalent. Also note that one well respected Japanese manufacturer only uses this fin design on their high-end kits. Their standard kits use a less efficient and cheaper extruded inner tube. Our end tanks are formed from 2mm sheet aluminium and feature a stamped radius at the tube connection. This results in a very light weight intercooler, with excellent flow charactoristics. I am a huge fan of Japanese products myself, but I suggest you look more closely at the product than the name. I feel that in this case at least, you will find the Australian product to be of very high quality and excellent value. One other thing that is worth noting, is that in America, if you own a WRX and want an Intercooler the firs choice is either APS or TurboXS/Hyperflow. If you haven't got the money, the next choice is the Japanese kits.......

That is the easiest way to do a kit for the GTS-T, but although the kit only needs a minimal amount of piping, the total length of piping once installed is huge!

Yeah, what he said! Thanks for the compliment on the pipes.

What you are saying is partially correct, but all kits are a compromise of many factors. Unless you are going to change the plenum, our kit has less bends than any other kit on the market (as far as we are aware). The bend you are talking about is exactly 160.5 degrees, and eliminates the two 90 degree bends found on most kits. We also change the pipe from the turbo to the inner guard, further reducing the number of bends. Any way, to cut it short, I agree with what you are saying but I think we have done the best we could to minimise the number of bends, and the lenght of the pipes.

Hi Nick. Glad you are happy with it Here is a pic of the "Titanium Look" anodized pipes I spoke to you about. David's pipes are ready to pick up from the anodizers so we will get them tomorrow. He decided to go with purple. We are also picking up the pipes for the EVO, which are red. I can't wait to see how some different colours look on the cars. I am thinking of making up a GTS-T kit in the same colour as shown above. We could swap yous for the anodized ones you know.......

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Welds on the piping? why weld pipes when you've got one of these....... We did weld on the BOV adapter though, and it comes out fine as long as you use the correct grade welding rod......

What I can't believe is that some kits on the market (the ones made in China) use chrome plated aluminium! I can't understand why someone would do that (other than to cut costs on polishing) One of the best things about aluminium is that it doesn't require any coating (annodizing isn't really a "coating" as I know you would be aware). The worst thing with chrome plating is that it does flake off. It is worse on aluminium as the pressure from the clamps can slightly compress the tube and make the chrome flake easily. Chrome flakes in your motor is not cool!

Hey dude, I said I prefered it to the polished look. We were a little uncertain of how it would look, but after I fitted it up we couldn't believe how nice and clean it turned out.

Because I told him he doesn't know what titanium tube looks like

I'm an Aircraft Maintainance Engineer by trade, and I have seen many titanium parts. The guy sitting beside me right now (laughing, by the way) used to mandrel bend titanium tube for aircraft, and the colour we chose was the closest to raw titanium that we could find. Freshly machined titanium has a brighter finish though, and I assume that is what you are talking about. Regardless, the customer was extremely happy with the result, and that's what counts.

We just got one of our kits annodized in a titanium colour for one of our customers. I reckon it looks awesome. Personally, I prefer it to the polished look.

Core is 600mm x 300mm x 60mm Inlet and outlet are both 80mm. Not a particularly good core, but the tanks are nice.

Hehe, sorry, I just couldn't help myself. :Oops: