I was purely asking for thoughts on the program, not my lifestyle choices. I respect that you all love to eat meat, can you respect that I choose not to eat meat? I hardly go on about it or mention it... you do that for me. Yes, I am aware that I would gain more muscle definition if I ate meat, but I don't and I'm not going to, so let's move on from that. Google vegetarian athletes and olympians... these althletes demonstrate that you can achieve solid muscle definition on a vegetarian diet. I just want focus on my exercise though. I can manage my diet.