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meh, find someone in nsw...go down there, list as address...get license under their rules. Problem solved for everyone only just getting their license. Of course I dont suggest this...I think it might be dodgy and possibly not legal.

me = bored....

i'd say autobarn would have to be one of the last places id go to buy anything for/fit anything on a performance car (or any car really). They charge to much and generally suck, unless your buying oil or something, in which case everywhere else is almost certainly still cheaper. Check out a workshop or do it yourself, its really easy and im sure theres a DIY guide that comes with it, if not do a search on the forums. Matt

because we're cool QLD we arent doing the power to weight ratio thing like in other states. According to the Transport site they are excluding v8's, Turbos and "high peformance" cars. They're putting up a list later this year. I can hardly wait. Id say its a fair bet that nana's corolla/lancer will be all thats left off. I think they'll be pretty thorough with it.

My point exactly Gordo! You've hit the nail on the head. To do that would cost too much money in their eyes. Its a lot easier to throw up smoke and mirrors and make it "sound" like they are trying to fix all the problems. Why they expect us to believe their lies is simple. A lot of people will believe it, without thinking about the statistics that show these measures HAVEN'T reduced the road toll in VIC but haven more than likely only increased fines and less people driving due to suspension. I think they are trying believe their own lies most of the time. But the main factor is its a million times easier to legislate a change that doesn't cost anything and restrict what we can do, than it is to actually fix a problem. After these changes we will have just about the toughest road restrictions in Australia, bar the speed restrictions. But what can you expect, its the government.

www.secondlife.com there was a thing about it on beyond tomorrow a couple of weeks back i downloaded and have been looking around on it, its pretty amazing...people make serious cash out of playing it lol

back in teh day it was exciting...oh well....that was back in the days of SLAYER though haha

has anyone played that online game..secondlife? I am intrigued by it.

geez, whoretown really goes off these days!

In many ways I agree with you. However, there arent actually any stats or figures that prove these measures have worked in any part of Australia, QLD Transport even highlight this in their forum section of pros and cons for this legislation. In theory it might sound good but so do many things. I dont mind the whole power restriction, more training and longer l's period but some of the other laws are just going to make it harder for ppl. Not to mention mean more ppl breaking the law and being caught and subsequently not being able to drive. The thing still remains that if ppl want to do stupid things, they will, we cant stop that. Be it in a powerful car or not will probably make little difference, in some cases it may be worse (say if ppl buy a car with less safety features than that of say a skyline with abs and airbags) What I think the goverment should be trying to implement is more intense training and more promotion of driving safer cars, fast or not. These days you can make many cars go fast, using countless measures, sure taking v8's and turbos away will make it harder but people will get more cunning and modify in different ways. I stand by the opinion that cars aren't the problem. Its the ppl driving them. Having said that, making it harder for the irresponsible ppl to get there hands on fast cars is a good idea. But its going to be very hard to police and probably very annoying for all the ppl who are responsible on the roads. What about v8 utes used to tow boats, or people that like to car pool for school or work, worst of all ppl that currently own one of the cars deemed undrivable for someone on their p's are they expected to sell the car? I just think this could have been thought through a little better. Not to mention voiced a little more publicly and put open to discussion. I didnt even know about this until a couple of weeks ago. And now they have already been approved through government after their "methods of discussion" with the public....I never heard of these discussions (i know they took place, but how many ppl knew?) If things like this are going to be passed and implemented i think more open discussion should be had with both the people trying to fix the problem and the people that will be affected. Not that it bothers me, i'll be on my opens. Just my opinion. Matt

If you read the RTA website it does state for all of the things EXCEPT the High performance regulation that it wont apply to people who have obtained their license prior to 1st july 2007. My guess is that this statement "From July 1 2007, All provisional drivers under the age of 25 must adhere to vehicle power restrictions" means that anyone on P's wont be driving anything V8, Turbo or "high performance".....Check it out..... http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinf...provisional.pdf Matt

This law is bullsh*t....they wont even get around to talking about it for ages and when they do it will be forever until something gets changed and when it does it wont affect anyone with a license anyway, nor will it probably affect the road toll. Its election time in September, maybe they want something to get all the older ppl on board with their "plan to fix road tolls" who knows, who cares. The thing i find interesting is apparently now if your over 25 and on your l's you can have a BAC of 0.05% WTF!!! BUT IF YOUR 24 LIKE WOW, THATS HUGE DIFFERENCE and as a result....you CANNOT drink at all, you CANNOT talk on a mobile, you MUST complete the logbook and you MUST have your l's for 12 months. Is it just me or is being 25 not all THAT different to being 24? Maybe the government just really doesnt care about the experience side, its solely based on age...or solely based on the age of the majority of ppl that actually give a sh*t as to who's voted in. IMO all ages on their l's should have the same restrictions...if your on your l's your learning, regardless of age. MAYBE you could have a set of rules for the 16yo's but even still. THIS LAW IS A JOKE and I think its a cheap publicity stunt. The most they'll even bother to get through is the p plate on the car rule, rest assured, look how long it took to get the l plate in, theyve been talking about it for years. Maybe they should be more concerned with training ppl to drive better, than making it harder for ppl to drive at all..maybe they should be more concerned with getting the rust buckets off the road than defecting imports. They say that speed kills, high peformance doesnt equal speed...ppl speed, not cars. I would rather speed in a well kept peformance car than a heap of crap unsafe to drive over 60km/h..but thats just me. Meh like i said, it only affects drivers without a license at all atm, so who cares. Matt

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im bored and need pay tv...damn Amanda for not having it Normal tv just doesn't cut it!

yea i remember, that night was fun....driving home at like 12am on the highway after it'd rained....haha overtaking a truck in 4th gear on boost...I think he was unhappy when I was wheelspinning past him...it was unintentional but i dont think he got the idea. Anyway atm im not driving anything, i dont have a license (thanks to forgetting my seatbelt) lol. So i have no need for one, but when i get it back it will be a toss up on what to get..i dont think it'll be an import though. Not at this time anyway.

what land release? I went to the launch of that settlers cover at berado's a bit back it doesnt look to bad...I want to know what they bought the land for though? Any idea's?

dont tell me your still at work at 5 josh?

3540 will spool pretty quickly and should be a good streetable turbo. On my old 25 the hks 3037s spooled quickly (it had cams etc) and had decent pull power from around 3500+ rpm....good for fun and with the luxury of a stronger bottom end and decent boost....well lets just say i had 265's and 1st, 2nd and 3rd were pretty fun gears!

post whoring whats that you say??? I dont even know how! Damn flood control is screwing me over!

if only there was a cactus jacks down the road and an sau cruise there tonight...it would certainly make the pain of losing that 11tybillion on red so much easier.

didnt we all....although I was betting on roulette..damn red IT NEVER CAME UP RED ARGHHHHH...im so poor now....its ok one day i'll win it all back. You and me both chris..Jupiters tonight, i know its our lucky night on the wheel...ermm that sounds weird, but instead of deleting it i'll just make it overly obvious. Yes all, I havent eaten enough today and i'm slightly delerious, dont be scared.

i need like a cliff note version of whats happend in the past 6ish months...

huh? Your buying a 34 eh Jay?...im so behind the times...

me = bored again.....i need constant entertainment...