Buying A New Car... Opinions Wanted

[Pol_Boy]

Heya…

Been reading the forums over the last few days and been researching both the non turbo and turbo R32. This is my first of many posts to come on this forum...

im getting my p's in late may... and have decided on purchasing an R32 but havn't come to a total agreement...

As generally id get the Turbo but in my case im not aloud to drive it..... which leaves me with a problem.. As i know of many cases of people getting the non-turbo and regretting it...

I have gone over the stickies in the NA section but came to realise there all double sided... so i was just thinking..

If i was to buy the turbo could i merely... fit some dark mesh to cover the cooler and have a quite bov ... take of badges would this be enough to deter the police.. of course i wont be driving like a lunatic, thats beside the point and if the police did pull me over and pop the hood would it be a simple warning and then fine.. or would action be taken straight away…

Id like some input and suggestions people, the car i buy this "MAY" will be the car i will be keeping for a while as i cant merely buy a shitter and wait to get off my p's...

Thanks in advance…

[chaos]

would have to keep the engine completely stock, airbox, stock bov.

but if your in NSW, from what i know its still against the law even to have a NA 32 (would have to verify that though). Police being easy on you, i wouldn't hold my breath dude. You'd be up for a big fine, maybe even loose your license, gotta ask yourself, is it worth the risk?

[Pol_Boy]

hmmm...

well im pretty sure in NSW that the NA aren't restricted... but my worry is are they worth the money?

[chaos]

good on fuel, not too bad on insurance decent car to learn in. They can still put out some decent power.

You just gotta ask yourself, if you buy a turbo, are you willing to risk possibly loosing your license? even if you kept your car stock as you can engine wise, cops arnt all stupid and some know what there looking at when you pop the bonnet.

[Tomek]

even if you kept your car stock as you can engine wise, cops arnt all stupid and some know what there looking at when you pop the bonnet.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Exactly...

however what are the chances of the cops checking out your motor, if you "behave" on the roads and have a simple looking car with no massive cannon on it, shopping lists, 20's and race describing numberplates i think you have a good chance...

Anyone know of exact penalties?

[chaos]

import car + bright red P plate = cops.

Gotta remember cops only need to pull you over for a RBT and that gives them chance to search your car.

[chaos]

cheaper to sell the car and buy a turbo one, but if you go down that road, could buy a bog stock na. Then purchase a turbo engine and work on that till you got your silver P's

[Pol_Boy]

hmmm...

since the laws & restrictions are 4 P platers is it worth holding the NA till i get my silver licence and then getting it turboed? because geting the car im planin to keep for a while... im not willing to take any risks with my licence just yet... im dying to get my P's

[br3tt]

I am in the same situation as you.

I decided though to get a NA R33, and absoulutely love it.

It's upto you, but you run a big risk.. What about the rego papers, the GTS-T awfully stands out.

You're not going to drive like an idiot, but you want a turbo? Why not just get a NA 32/33 and make it a nice cruise car?

It's your call. But if you really wanted a turbo, you could either sell your R32 NA to a fellow aspiring P plater when you've done with it, and put that towards a turbo'd car?

[Pol_Boy]

Dont get me wrong i love my skylines but id want it too have a decent amount of power so i could have a bit of fun here n there.

also i dont have such a high income as im still in school.

Overall how much diferent is the NA to the Gts-t? n what times could the NA run stock?

[Tomek]

n what  times could the NA run stock?

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15.8 or so...

[LO_R33]

Very dumb idea if you ask me... I've seen way to many GTS-T skylines at auctions with P plates hanging off them, that have been wrapped around poles, etc. Anyway forget it mate - Your not ALLOWED it. So its completly out of the question, there is no way you can drive any form of a turbo car (even if its a turbo charade!) if you didnt get your license before restrictions came in. Unless of course there are very special circumstances, though dont see this in your case.

I've got a NA R33 - and even though my license is not restricted anyway, this was the car i wanted to get.. I've driven turbo-charged cars, and big v8's and seriously, its very hard to hold back when you've just got your license. Specially with mates egging you on, and every other fcukwit at traffic lights that try and race you.

Being a P plater, really with no experience on the road at all, i think its a fairly dumb idea - sure people have done it before, pulled it off, and havent had any close calls... But majority of the time you hear about the car being written off.. or them loosing their license few weeks later.

At the end of the day, your only allowed a NA car, so if you've decided that you want an r32, your only going to be able to get it in the gts form - sorry.

On another note.. even if you were very stupid and went and got a gtst skyline with restricted p's - no insurance company will insure you because your not ment to be driving it on your restricted license.

Dayne

[Patto-]

The penalty for driving a prohibited vehicle on P1 or P2 licence is $375 and 7 demerit points.

I believe on P1 you are allowed 4 demerit points and on P2 you are allowed 7, so if you get caught you will loose your licence.

Hardly worth the risk IMO.

[hender]

depends thats only NSW if ur in vic u can drive GTST but only the r32 not 33

[johnnyfamous]

im in the exact same situation. but i heard they give u a permit to drive the car if say it is the only car u are available to drive.

[saff_cossie]

Get the N/A, build your experience. In a few years get a turbo when you have that experience behind you. If possible, try and do some defensive or skill based days between so you can enjoy yourself and learn about your car also, safely.

[blind_elk]

... of course i wont be driving like a lunatic...

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Famous last words - we've all said them.

If you are not even getting your Ps until May, then settle for the GTS. Get some experience under your belt. You will have 3 years of learning (not the type of learning to get the licence, but proper learning to DRIVE!) to save up for the turbo version. In the non-turbo version, you will not get into trouble as quickly as you might with the turbo version.

Patience, young grasshopper.

[markimak]

uh.. insult to injury. wouldnt get a N/A R32.. ahahha

if i was an unlucky NSW P plater.. ill be lookin for a nice AE86 or Liberty wagon. pref LX. same prices as a R32GTST (decent) Turbos r great. but nothing is better than response and balance.. something not many turbo cars have.

but lag is cool. plant ur foot.. waiting nothing. nothing nothing.. BAM ahahah

[markimak]

i agree with tomek. i reckon u can get away with a turbo car easially. for example i was doin a bit of touge in the GTR on my mountain passes. brakes wer red hot and squealin so came to the bottom of a hill and intended to drift a roundabout so i dnt use the brakes too much to slow down. at that moment i looked left see a undercover cop lights in a commo that pulled over a TX3 with big FMIC. re balanced the car out and drove normally.. got out of site and launched it.. mm tyre screaching.

be sneaky.. dnt go to big ass groupie meets like half the fools that head to broadwater CP every sat. U GIVE US BAD NAMES.

keep away frm cops and u wont have problems. and dnt go drawing attention to urself. dnt go poping off burnouts in carparks..remember its the picky NSW P platers that ruined it for the rest of ya.

dnt draw cops out u wont get caught..

get an liberty wagon

[Are_thirty_two]

dont get an na r32 whateva you do.

I had an n/a r32 and now have a turbo r32.

The n/a slow as. vn Commodores beat it. And to top it all off, full insurance was pretty high and twice as more as a vn. Work that one out!

I hated the n/a for the final year i had it.