Bf F6 Typhoon

[wrxhoon]

When I said wollop, I was referring to ingear acceleration, not from a standing start like in a drag. The torque is what will pull one car away from another and the f6s figure is substantially higher than the GTRs.

Dont get me wrong Im also a skyline nut (have owned 2). The f6 is about as close to a local car that can be compared to the GTR. Several months ago they compared (wheels) a R34 GTR, typhoon and a charger- they said the better car by miles was the typhoon. Now the Bf model with 6spd auto is even faster than that model they tested.

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Well i didnt want to brag but since you mentioned the 34 GTR , i have one and when i got it from Japan bog stock with a catback exhaust ( i didnt have a stock exhaust ) i did 12.8 @wsid with a stock clutch as well . You can believe all the magazines you want but i have the run and timeslip to prove it .

The link supplied by Big Rizza shows a BA typhoon has done a 13.2 @105 MPH.( 6 speed auto ). Dont forget autos are much better for taking off from standing start .

How is that going to wallop my 34 when i did 12.8 @108 mph ? Standing or rolling start its obvious that i have his measure as i have the MPH at the end .Going on that run looks like all he will see is the tail lights and plenty of exhaust of the 34 .

By the way he wont have any hope againiest my R now as i have some mods and have run a 11.8 @ 118 mph . Whats more i can drive it everyday on the street it has very little lag and i can boot it anytime ( wet or dry ) with heaps of traction .

As i said before it may have ( i'm not sure that it has more power ) more power and more torque but it has heaps more weight too .

[merlin6014]

How is that going to wallop my 34 when i did 12.8 @108 mph ? Standing or rolling start its obvious that i have his measure

Because your 12.8 was assisted by your AWD. Take that out of the equation - i.e. a rolling start - and the Typhoon may leave you behind. I said MAY - I wanna watch

[someonestolecc]

Because your 12.8 was assisted by your AWD. Take that out of the equation - i.e. a rolling start - and the Typhoon may leave you behind. I said MAY - I wanna watch 

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The whole point of this thread isn't a theoretical one. If you took away all advantage/disadvantages you'd be left comparing 2 of the same car.

Point is the GTR is more of a sports car.

[Big Rizza]

Personally I'd rather an XR6 Turbo with 6 auto for $47k than an F6 Typhoon with 6 auto for $61k. There is only, what, 25kw between them? The price difference can buy a lot of aftermarket performance, both in terms of power and handling! THEN you can run with and defeat GTRs!

Until they power up their car... Then you will lose again...

[Mecha]

Yes its true the Typhoon would beat the GTR but ony in water.

[Amir]

The ford dealership in brookvale will become an fpv dealership in mid January. Booked myself for a testdrive.

For some reason I think it will put a smile on my face. After getting the chip reprogrammed its said to be good for 280rwkw.

They are very different cars, but there still 6 cylinder turbo charged. I must be getting old now Im 30 cant even believe Im thinking of even sitting in a ford.

[Amir]

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How is that going to wallop my 34 when i did 12.8 @108 mph ? Standing or rolling start its obvious that i have his measure as i have the MPH at the end .Going on that run looks like all he will see is the tail lights and plenty of exhaust of the 34 .

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the thing is the BA typhoon was a 4spd auto, the Bf is the 6 spd. Said to be a much better box with better ratios, can handle more power. Also has sequential shifting. With 550nm of torque at 2000rpm, I dont think it will see your back end if your car was stock in a rolling start.

[wrxhoon]

Because your 12.8 was assisted by your AWD. Take that out of the equation - i.e. a rolling start - and the Typhoon may leave you behind. I said MAY - I wanna watch 

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And the ford is assisted by the AUTO . How can it beat me if i was doing 108 mph at the end of the 1/4 when he is doing 105 mph ?

It works both ways the awd is better for taking off , just like the auro is but both are hindered at the top end .

One of the reasons i drive a GTR is the awd .

[ylwgtr2]

the gtr also has more stuff to rotate in its drive line.....

[wrxhoon]

the thing is the BA typhoon was a 4spd auto, the Bf is the 6 spd. Said to be a much better box with better ratios, can handle more power. Also has sequential shifting. With 550nm of torque at 2000rpm, I dont think it will see your back end if your car was stock in a rolling start.

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According to the link it was a f6 ( 6 speed manual i would think ) .Sequential shifting doesnt help you can hold the gears in any auto .

Well we will never know but my bet is he will be seen plenty of GTR exhaust on either standing or rolling start .

What makes you think that the GTR will be slow from a rolling start , dont forget it will be on full boost !!

I dont know how accurate the quoted power figures are either on the big ford .

I know the 300 kw boomies are not 300 kw .

[R33S2]

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As a fitter I deal with tolerances all the time and I was interested to learn that Aus (and USA) have a poor tolerance scheme compared to Nippon and Germany their machinery is better and overall quality stanadards higher on most of their cars, but we're not talking budget cars here.

[Col-GTSX]

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[marchGTR]

I think a lot of people underestimate the top end speed of a gtr, it doesnt die in the arse like a stock wrx (no disrespect intended as I like them for what they are).

from a rolling start my 100% standard r33 gtr used to often pull away top end from mildly modded gen3's with over 300kw at the crank such as the gts, so I really cant see how a stock typhoon is going to smash a stock gtr on a roll.....and if it does its not stock.

I wont even bother talking about a standing start

[Big Rizza]

I think a lot of people underestimate the top end speed of a gtr, it doesnt die in the arse like a stock wrx (no disrespect intended as I like them for what they are).

from a rolling start my  100% standard  r33 gtr used to often pull away top end from mildly modded gen3's with over 300kw at the crank such as the gts, so I really cant see how a stock typhoon is going to smash a stock gtr on a roll.....and if it does its not stock.

I wont even bother talking about a standing start

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It wouldn't suprise me to find out that your 100% standard GTR makes more power some GenIII's!!! "206kw" has to be a typo! Those early GenIIIs in the VT Series II were "only" making 220kw, and I'm sure many GTRs would match (or beat) that output stock.

Reminds me of the old R34 GTR N1 vs. HSV GTS comparison in Wheels years ago... N1 ran mid 4's to 100km/h and mid 12's to 400m. "206kw" hahaha :lol:

[marchGTR]

oh I meant the last of the gen3's.... and even the newer 6l commies. I dont have the gtr anymore, but it used to surprise me even when it was stock, it took something with a fair bit of mods to beat it.

I cant see how any of the new crop aussie muscle cars stock would hand it to a stock gtr...not even off a rolling start.

[INASNT]

1 thing to say:

STOCK R33 GTR with RE01 Tyres, did 12.8second 1/4m

(dont belived me watch Best Motoring r33 gtr specail)

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I dont know why people always use Best Motoring times to argue a point.

Most of the best motoring times are posted when its <10 degrees and times they get in stockish cars there can never be repeated here in aus. (Yes I have all the Best Motoring dvd's, even the special editions and hot versions

I was looking a a few F6's today while helping my num find a new car, very nice but looks to much like the stock falcon interior with a few extra bit of add ons. We ended up getting a new Yaris.

[GTR_Legend]

Have to say that ford have come along way and are now producing some decent cars into the market.

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HAHA - just had to put that in :lol:

I have owned 2 holdens, but only cause they were VLT's with an RB30DET, otherwise i would have waited to get a line.

One of the best moments i have had so far is pulling up to an XR6 turbo ute Mk2 and ripping him apart, he backed off when we hit $1.30.

I felt sorry for him spending that amount of money on a ford and getting ripped.

[Big Rizza]

I was looking a a few F6's today while helping my num find a new car, very nice but looks to much like the stock falcon interior with a few extra bit of add ons. We ended up getting a new Yaris.

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Wow, that is some serious cross shopping. The F6 is like triple the price of a Yaris!

[noise]

people who buy fords dont buy gtr's.

[Haysey]

id hate to break it to you lot....

next car im looking at late this year is a Black XR6 Turbo....

cheap, new, local, can be insured, and can make BIG power......

untill then ill enjoy my police attention, 2nd hand/hard to find parts, getting raped for insurance, being called a hoon, worrying about the car not being there the next day and dirty looks :D:D

*please dont hurt me *