Stock speaker wires

[skyline_paul]

im about to install some new speakers into the car and just wondering if the stock wiring for the stock speakers are alright to use for the new speakers.

I am really concerned about this because on my last car i install ed some new speakers and it worked alrite but i could smell some strange burning smell whenever i pumped up the volume...

Also is it better to just stick to 6" speakers in the rear since im gonna have a sub running or should i go with 6x9"s????

cheers

[predator]

I think with a sub you're better off running just some good 6".

6x9 really are just bigger surface area to pump up bass better. Seeing as a sub is really just doing that, not much need for 6x9 in that sort of setup.

[The Tool]

I'm with the Pred.

I personally think 6x9's are a waste of time. Decent 6's and a sub/amp will be heaps better.

Your stock wiring should do fine. I'm running good speakers from an amp using stock wiring (for part of the front at least - i reckon the effort of running new wires to the front doors is not worth it) and i have no complaints.

The smell may be the actual speakers themselves, not necessarily (sorry if i can't spel ) the wiring. Most speakers generally don't draw current to the point that it will melt the wires (most car wiring can handle at leat 10amp).

I could be wrong, but all the same I reckon you'll be fine.

[akeenan]

i decided to use my stock wiring however i decided to put in 6.9's for my own reasons which i cant be bothered explaining, however it was a mighty task so if ur not prepared to slug it out in the back seat for 1 full day hacking away sweating like a byuetch and cuting urself every way possible just go with the 6 inches, that way u can use the stock speaker grills and conceal ur stereo from woodbee whores!

[oofoofoo]

i think the decision to use stock wires really comes down to how good you want the overall system to sound - if your putting in high end speakers then you will be really shooting yourself in the foot if you dont upgrade the wires. Whats that law - the system is only as good as its worst part...

[Wes M]

I'd be carefull trying to run too much current down your stock wires. The thinner the wire, the higher the resistance, the more heat that would be output. It doesn't take much to start the insulation smouldering. It also wouldn't be doing the rest of your system justice.

Quality wire doesn't cost the earth and is fairly easy to install through a skyline.

The 6" + sub combo should do you well.

[Nav2k]

i'd leave my stock speakers and spend more money on the sub/amp, and amplifier the splits really nicely.

skylines r small cars inside the back seat so theres not much point for rear fill when u've got a sub and nice splits.

thats my opinion anyway, it'd sound awesome with 6's aswell im sure (:

u can use stock speaker wires, the smell u were smelling was probably the seal from the speakers on the sides etc. i doubt it was from the wires.

dont go 6x9's if u've got a sub, theres no point... good 6's would give good enough bass too, whatever bass it doesnt output, comes from ur sub, and u'd rather those hard lower frequencies coming from ur sub, 6x9's would take them away.

[Fhrx]

It's always required that the speaker cable be upgraded when higher current (ie from an amplifier) flow is required.

As for 6x9's, you sit at the front and your ears face forward, so why (unless you're running DTS etc) bother with any speaker in the back? Besides, the stock ones do their job of fill good enough.

[m3boy]

guys i have stock wires running off an amp to 6's in my car but a hear a hissing sort of noise from them. I thought this might be a stock wire problems as they are very thin and dont shield very much? is this so?

[Fhrx]

Unfortunately hissing is not something associated with small speaker wires.

This source of this problem will found elsewhere, possibly birthing before the amp even receives the music signal.

[m3boy]

fhrx,

what is birthing (excuse my ignorance, im a newbie!). how do i find out what is casuing my prob?

thanks

[Fhrx]

Birthing, as in originating. Sorry about that...

Does the hiss change at all with the revs of the car?

Have you got any other components you can put in the car to try and single out one component?

Who set the gains on the amp?

What voltage output does your head unit have?

[m3boy]

fhrx,

yeah hiss changes with the revs. i just bought this car and it came with a sony xplod md head unit 50x4W running the back speakers direct from head unit (130W kenwoods 2 way) with an amp of some sort (avantgarde comp series? - its silver and 4 channel anyway) running the fronts and a xplod sub on a bridged channel. the hissing seems to come from the fronts. i used to have this problem in my old prelude, but i fixed it when i seperated the power cable to the RCA's. In the skyline thou, the power cord is right to the battery in the boot as you know so i cant seperate them any further.

[Fhrx]

From what you have told me I'm guessing the problem lies in the way the system has been wired.

Are the wires good quality like Streetwires / Stinger / Phoenix Gold etc or non-name stuff?

[m3boy]

i dont know how to tell, no name stuff i think thou.

[Fhrx]

Quality brands usually have their branding all over their products.

no name stuff i think thou.

There lies your problem.

High end installers are always crapping on about using high end cable. There is a good reason for this.

Like you don't use quarter inch plastic fuel lines on a nitro funny-car, nor should you use cheap cables on your stereo or this sort of thing happens.

Now bare in mind I am only going on what you have told me. If you want a more definate answer to what is causing it, I can come and meet you somewhere and diagnose the system no problems.

[m3boy]

you'll inspect my car? man thats cool! you sound like a pro Fhrx!

Id greatly appreciate all the help! Pm me with you availability!

thanks heaps

[Fhrx]

Well, we try.

www.fhrxstudios.com

[m3boy]

oh i see, you are a pro!

stilll like the help though!