Aftermarket Baffled Sump For Rb25det?

[Downforce]

Does anyone know of any aftermarket brand larger baffled oil sumps for the RB25DET engine?

[NutR33]

i have seen Unique auto sports offering custom 7 litre sump for about $700, check out this link,

http://sard.com.au/pricelists/pricelist_skylineengine.htm

looks like a midified std sump, or try a local engenering work shop to mod yours.

[BU5TER]

http://highenergy.com.au/index.php?module=...me&content=home

Japanese performance cars are the fastest growing sector in the performance industry. Drifting has become very popular and Import Drag Racing is all the rage.

High Energy Oil Pans has now developed a number of specially designed oil pans for these import racers. We are now offering a range of designs for:

Holden/Nissan VL 3.0L oil pans (RB30)

Nissan Skyline Oil pans (RB20, RB25, RB26)

WRX (EJ20)

Honda etc.

Mazda Rotary

For more information [email protected]

[R31Nismoid]

What on earth do you need one for

[D-limo]

I think ARE in QLD make "Swimg Arm" style ones

[infected flow]

there really is no point putting an aftermarket sump on ....just put an oil cooler on and see how much more oil it takes!

[Trust33]

how much are they tho???

[nF]

you aren't talking much more oil really

still under 5 litres for an rb20

[gimpyr33]

What on earth do you need one for 

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To stop oil surge, probably while drifting - i'm unsure whether it's a problem with this motor, but it sounds like a better investment than a blowoff valve.

[R31Nismoid]

I know him

he dont need one, just slap an extra litre of oil in before you go round the circuit easypz

[NutR33]

Some quick questions that i asked High Energy and their response....

was just wondering the price of a sump for an r33 gtst rb25det? $600+gst for our Pro Eliminator

are these a c/o basis or buy outright?

Yes they are c/o pan and oil pickup

do they come with a modified pick-up?

Yes , mesh windage tray and x2 gates for better oil control on acceleration and braking.

what amount of oil do they hold?

6.5Litres

production lead time from date of order 2-3 weeks

hope this helps

NutR33

[gimpyr33]

I know him 

he dont need one, just slap an extra litre of oil in before you go round the circuit   easypz

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So cavitated oil is what we are aiming for?

[Downforce]

To stop oil surge, probably while drifting - i'm unsure whether it's a problem with this motor, but it sounds like a better investment than a blowoff valve.

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yes i want a baffled sump for a little extra assurance against oil starvation to the bottom end at high revs during hard cornering...

it's certainly not for drifting tho

[Downforce]

What on earth do you need one for 

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lol smart arse ash. what happened to your rb25?

[Downforce]

http://highenergy.com.au/index.php?module=...me&content=home

For more information [email protected]

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Thanks for that link BU5TER.

there really is no point putting an aftermarket sump on ....just put an oil cooler on and see how much more oil it takes!

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I have an oil cooler already, that cools the oil. Doesn't stop the oil pickup from not getting any oil though!

i have seen Unique auto sports offering custom 7 litre sump for about $700, check out this link,

http://sard.com.au/pricelists/pricelist_skylineengine.htm

looks like a midified std sump, or try a local engenering work shop to mod yours.

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yep I've seen the UAS offering... it's larger capacity, but doesn't look like a baffled design.. thanks for the suggestion

[Roy]

I have never heard of an RB25 having dramas at the track. Merli tracked his old R33, which was internally std but with a HKS 3040 and Greddy plenum etc, AP 6 pots etc etc and making about 275rwkws with semi slicks. His car was punted regularly and never had starvation problems.

It would be added insurance...but really i see it as an extra initial expense, purchase + Labour. Then at $70 for 5L of Castrol, the cost of an oil change would soon get expensive, especially since i change my oil before every track day, even if that sump has only done o1 track day and 500kms of road use.

That said if you have the coin and already have all other basis covered, then do it....curious to know how much labour is involved to install?

[R31Nismoid]

Thats what i think troy.

just slap an extra litre in there before you go out

My RB25 - going to Tazzie for a track car (stock sump)

[gimpyr33]

just slap an extra litre in there before you go out 

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I do not think you understand the concept of having the modified sump.

The extra capacity is there because it's a differnet size and can hold more oil before the level goes too high and starts becoming whipped up and airated by the crank, by adding more oil than is the maximum level on ANY engine that isn't dry sumped you will get air in the oil, and air in the oil going onto your bearings etc is bad.

The reason for the baffles etc is to stop the oil from getting away from the pickup, holding more oil is just a bonus of the system. By adding more oil to a stocker you arent getting the benifits of the modified sump.

BTW, after the track day where does this extra litre of oil you add go? Does it magically dissapear, burn, what?

Edited January 24, 2006 by gimpyr33

[R31Nismoid]

you pull out sump plug

you drain oil

you put sump plug back in

I thought it was basic (sorry for the sarcasm there, need a vent while @ work for another shift)

If there is more oil in there, there is less chance of it being somewhere other than where the pick-up is one would imagine

But really, i dont think even modded RB25 (as troy said) have problems with that.

I was told i wouldnt need it for my RB25 (plan was to see track but didnt sue to selling the motor... damned EPA)

And seeing a few RB25/30'also punted around in 33's without modded sumps also who dab an bit more oil in there is my reasoning.

[NutR33]

My reason for bigger/baffeled sump is one of insurance, why spend 10g on a motors internals and not do your best to stop oil starvation and killing the motor (again).

Plus i have heard when using the N1 pump that you can actually empty the std sump very quickly.

Im making my sump myself with the help of an engenering mate and with oil cooler and larger filter should be pushing the capacity up around 8.5 - 9L

Cheers

NutR33