I'm So f**king Confused

[Rednisr31]

hey man i don drive like a dickhead i keep telling them i only speed when it's safe to do so  LOL.

i stick to the speed limit 95% of the time

the other 5% is accidental speeding and its ony like 5k/h

and if i see im speeding i back off

its not safe to speed!

[09ONE_32]

Don't get a shitter just because everyone tells you that a Skyline is too dangerous. You won't respect the shitter...That’s a fact.

But even worse is when you do get into your skyline you will have driven the shitter for 1-2yrs and will have no respect for the power a skyline will have because all you have done is thrash your shitter.

IMO this breeds an even more dangerous situation. People will tell you (and you will believe) that because you drove a piece of shit before getting your Skyline you will be responsible. How can you respect something that you haven't driven/had any contact with, you will become complacent.

[thrtytwo]

firstly if your 19 do what you want but i realise that isnt always the best or easiest option, and if your loving at home theres no reason to piss off your parents, so just save your money, but a bomb for a while, and once your off your Ps or your parents think they an trust you then you still have most of your money + what you wouldve saved in that time to buy the car you want !

[predator]

i stick to the speed limit 95% of the time

geebuz.. you must be the slowest driver in SEQ..

[Nismo_Boy]

geebuz.. you must be the slowest driver in SEQ..

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Gordo, your a speedy race car driver though.

[Daz]

Buy a EB ford and do a monster turbo conversion

[Zoggy]

leave home..

join the real world and do what the hell you like

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You hit the nail on the head with that comment

[AMS]

snuh

[PHATR32]

man, get a tx3 turbo 4wd. pick up a good one for bouyt $6000. a zorst, bit of boost and a filter.

great fun to drive, excelent car to learn mechanics on.

parts arnt too bad either.

steve

[pnblight]

R31 is the car for you

1. 3 litre strong torquey motor (so still a lot of fun to drive)

2. cheap to insurance (trust me you will flip when you see insurance for an import at 19)

3. Reiable not many maintain costs

4. Part readily available

5. and if your got the turbo bug you can drop a turbo in easy as later on

so do yourself a favor and get some expirence in a car like this you'll not regret it, Have a look on the r31 forum the boys have alot of fun.

pete

[Boostkid]

i drive an 86 pintara gxe, ca20de.

these cars are the same car as an R31 skyline with a smaller engine and a few different interior and exterior details.

as far as I know they would handle quite similarly.

they are very dangerous cars in the wet (a slow clutch release at 2000rpm started a burnout in my car and my mum just said "now you know how easy it is to do in this car")

get a shitty little FWD IMO or even a rwd that u can chuck around on some private property. IMO the best way to learn to control an out of control car is to get it out of control in controlled conditions (driver courses are great for this).

[Triskillion]

if you buy a piece of shit to save cash, it has to have NO AIRCON, NO POWERSTEERING, mayb not over 1.8litre coz it might have enuff power to make you push it. no power windows etc....

why you ask... coz in the end its gonna cost you more then buying a good car with these options coz on the shit car it will break down. my cars shit and its got all power options etc etc. ive replaced half of everything on the car. and the other half is waiting to be fixed or replace.... so ive quit the whole car and am in the market of another car. if i had all the cash i used to buy the car and fix the car up to its state now... i could be driving a gtr... which makes me sick.... but in the end its only set me back a year or 2 of owning something like a gtr. but i want to wait another year and get my dream car.... supra... ahhhh...

[MR R33]

im 19 iv owned a r33 gtst ever since i was 17, yeh they are an awesome car to drive but very dangerous as well, especially in the wet.

but any rear wheel drive car will be like that, it depends on the attitude that you have towards driving, as i have been reading this topic, i suggest you stick with a non turbo, but get something that still looks nice like a bmw, or somethin that has a bit of power but not too much.

i have lost a few mates in car accidents, and i have learnt from it that it simply isnt worth speeding anytime, there is no such thing as safe speeding, even if there is no one on the rd it takes a split second for something to jump out in front of you, or even something like your tyre to blow out.

by the attitude that you have, i think your parents are right just get a non turbo and do some exterior mods, casue if they have seen you speeding and you sayin u can safe speed, then most likely you will speed and then you will be bitching about losing your license or you wrote it off.

thats just my 2cents

dave....

[nuR.spec]

non turbo Z ive had 2 of em and much more reliable than the twin turbo version

[jmac]

stocko SR20 pulsar. preferably in beige. enough power to not be totally annoying but safe FWD handling to not get you into too much trouble. some have ABS and an airbag too.

that said the biggest accident i've had was in a 1.6L laser at about 50km/h - got driven into (was not at fault, insurance sent me cheque, woohoo!!!) and in about 0.5 sec i was sitting in a wreck with the dash wedged against the gear lever and a lump on the head.

it all comes down to attitude, being alert, aware of the potential consequences of the decisions you're making and basically being paranoid that everyone else on the road is a complete moron who is out to kill you.

[Amaru]

Have had a 300+kw at the wheels GTR since I was 19 (and no it wasnt mummy and daddy paying for it, i caught the bus until I was 19 saving money for one) and havnt pranged it yet. Id like to put it down to common sense, since it would be very easy to crash it squeezing the throttle just a bit too much around a corner. Parents were dead against it when I was looking at them, but it was my money and my decision, not theirs.

Am now 22, insurance loves me (because I have had it for over 2 1/2 years without a claim), only one speeding fine in it (90km/h in an 80 zone) and lam loving it.

If you have self control, get the Skyline. If you dont and are likely to show its fully sikness to your mate-ahs then dont get one because you will crash it.

[FEMFTL]

I had the same dilemma with my parents. Especially my dad. They freaked after seeing my brother put twin turbos on his EA falcon and then having to spend thousands to maintain and fix everything that broke. I guess with the limited knowledge they have of turbo cars they just assumed all turbos were bad news. Only thing is they knew i would buy a turbo and there was nothing they could do about it. So i bought my R32 GTS-t and now dad loves it.

My first car was a n13 pulsar hatch, I drove it for 5 years. And installed a massive stereo and used it for db drag events.

My advice is get something cheap, corolla gti etc, suzuki, and chuck some big rims and a stereo in it.. then enjoy driving it. Save up your cash for when your off your P's then go buy your dream car. Insurance will be cheaper (providing you are a sensible driver) and you wont have cops hassle you as much. And your parents will have peace of mind because you wont be wrapped around some traffic light pole.

[scathing]

i mean with so many racer/dragger wanna bees around in their commodores and s13's  and shit you'd really wanna shut a few of them up.

The fact that you care about what "wanna bees" think about you, and feel the need to engage in stoplight drags with them, proves that you don't have the right attitude to drive a high powered car.

I realise that you're 19, and I do remember what it was like, but its not worth it. Showing off to losers and beating them doesn't make you any less of one. All it does is make you the king of the losers.

Make your nick more than just empty talk. The next time some tool lines you up and gives you the eye before smoking it at an intersection, just say "WAT EVA" and let them go.

[scathing]

im 19 iv owned a r33 gtst ever since i was 17, yeh they are an awesome car to drive but very dangerous as well, especially in the wet.

but any rear wheel drive car will be like that

You must have driven some absolute shitters, then.

My first car (a Volvo 240GL), and my old man's last two BMWs were only dangerous if I went out of my way to drive like a tool by pitching it into a corner way too fast, or when I was driving the tyres below their tread depth indicators, or just flooring the throttle around corners.

But if you're the kind of driver that does that in the wet, it doesn't matter what kind of drivetrain you've got....and its probably not the car at fault. Either your setup or maintenance is shit, or your driver is.

[D-limo]

i drive an 86 pintara gxe, ca20de.

these cars are the same car as an R31 skyline with a smaller engine and a few different interior and exterior details.

as far as I know they would handle quite similarly.

they are very dangerous cars in the wet (a slow clutch release at 2000rpm started a burnout in my car and my mum just said "now you know how easy it is to do in this car")

get a shitty little FWD IMO or even a rwd that u can chuck around on some private property.  IMO the best way to learn to control an out of control car is to get it out of control in controlled conditions (driver courses are great for this).

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WTF?

Those crazy hoolagins in their stock 5sp ca20e powerhouses with open diffs :lol: