Consult Lcd Display

[NewKleer]

Peter, if i grab one of the first ones you make, and then u implement some new stuff on the next batch, can the first batch be updated, and so on?

definitely. i dont anticipate changing anything to the point it would make older versions not able to do the same thing (with required upgrades) that later ones can. even the 12 pcb's i got made initially for prototyping will be able to do the same stuff the final version can (although at this point they arent gonna do anything except sit in the cupboard).

some things that i was thinking of before:

if we do end up going down the path of having external sensor monitoring, it may be needed to do it on a seperate unit.

also, i see you are having a peak hold function in the unit... i run one of Impakts interfaces, and it has peak hold, but it only seems to be on what is displayed on the screen... i.e. you can't cycle through other readouts that weren't visible on the screen at the time and see their max values...

will you be able to cycle through all the readouts with yours and see their max values, or only the ones that were visible on the display at the time?

for external voltages, all it requires is wiring it up to the board (which already has places for it). you of course have to know or be able to interpret whatever voltage its reading, itll just display it. eg:

V1: 1.34v V2: 2.34v V3: 0.14v V4: 4.34v

V5: 0.00v V6: 4.10v V7: 2.23v V8: 3.07v

for other external things that need other chips(eg k-type thermocouple), these could either be placed on the board (room for 2 k-type thermocouple reader ICs if u use a different capacitor), or more easily, placed on a small prototype board external to the device, thats wired up to the device (eg power, ground, and 2 data lines), which would be a more tidy solution. either way, its do-able.

the reason impakts peaks are only the ones ur watching is u can only stream so many sensors on consult, its not possible to stream all at once.

mine would operate similarly, however theres no setup required as all standard ones that 95% of ecu's support are shown, and the more important of those (not O2, batt, AAC, whose max values are of no interest really due to their transitory nature) which the peak values mean something, are on the peak screen:

display

000kph 0000rpm 00.0v EC:xxx INJ:00% 00oB

AAC:00 O2:.00v 000oC AFM:0.00V TPS:0.00V

peak

[x]Exit [ ]Reset 000kph 0000rpm EC:xxx

INJ:00% 00oB 000oC AFM:0.00V TPS:0.00V

[WogsRus]

Either way mate, this is exactly what i am after, i would prefer to have this in the car at all times, rather then having a Lapytop in the car to get readouts.

BTW, i had a look at your site in regards to the prototype box lcd display and have a question.

Willl these displays be able to be installed in the space bellow the single din in the center dash?

Have you got any more pics of these?

[NewKleer]

theyre 188mm wide and about 40mm high inc buttons. u could probably mount it to front of the free space easier than inside it, that way u can still press buttons etc. i dont have ur car so i dont really know. the viewing angles may make it hard to read if its too low though

in my opinion on the steering column is best place to put it, it normally wont interfere with ur gauges unless ur steering column is high. other alternatives are the base of windscreen (so ur not too distracted from road) or maybe sun visor?

ill see if i can get a chunk of sticky tape velcro (is that exists) that i can ship some with to aid in mounting

i have a shit pic (dont have decent camera), was taken a while ago...nothing exciting

Edited August 10, 2006 by NewKleer

[hrd-hr30]

Can I ask what the point of time trials are? Don't be mistaken, I think this is a fantastic product but am unsure of what this function is used for that you couldn't get at the drag strip?

I definitely have a use for them. In standing start events (hillclimb/supersprints etc) I can use them to evaluate different launch techniques or rpm. besides, the drag strip wouldn't tell you your 0-60, 0-100 or 0-160kph times either.

this unit's peak hold function for rpm, coolant temp, duty cycle would be good for me too. and peak kph would be interesting - eg after Lakeside the other week, everyone wanted to know what speed i was hitting just before the kink on the front straight - the fastest part of the track. I couldn't tell them accurately because you had to be concerntrating on the road at that point, but with this unit i would know exactly what my top speed was.

so they do have legitimate uses for people who use their car on the track. people who do this sort of thing on the road are going to still do it wether they have one of these units or not.

I can't wait for one of these.

while the knock sensor value itself cannot be read via consult, i came across somewhere that said bit 7 of address 0055 will tell u if the ecu is using knock maps or not - so ill see if i can add ability to read this

thanks NewKleer. I suspected it wouldn't be possible, or you would have already included it.

btw, yep adhesive backed velcro tape is available. I think I bought it from Supercheap believe it or not!

Edited August 11, 2006 by hrd-hr30

[NewKleer]

just checked out supercheap, $4 per 15cm (x2cm i think) piece. which is a bit of a rip-off. will check out spotlight (that shop i used to dread visiting as a kid, so bloody boring )

[ellie]

thanks for the response Peter, I've been busy renovating. I had a quick look a while back when I first read this thread found those very thermocouplings but didn't mention them as I am unsure of how I would go about making the sensor end into a fitting to go into an oil sandwich plate! And haven't got around to nutting it out or finding an actual screw in sensor that is a thermo coupling

Maybe someone else knows of a way or a product?

Very valid points on the time trials so consider me educated!

[NewKleer]

ive done options and clear fault codes. doing peak values now.

by the way, im open to suggestions on how time trials should work.

this is my current thinking:

[X]Exit [ ]Start [ ]Clear  Best:xxx.xxxs
Speed:000kph Distance:xxxm Time:xxx.xxxs

obviously assuming i can get distance going with some semblance of accuracy

start will start monitoring speed, etc (and will change to "[x]Stop"), and each time speed = 0, will start timing when speed > 0 till it reaches x (60, 100, whatever). unless u stop it, it will keep timing and if u beat the best, will overwrite that. clear will clear best time.

this is assuming i can measure distance (with some vague amount of accuracy). if not, then something else can do in that space. maybe a progress bar? (0||||||---60) ive no idea

Edited August 12, 2006 by NewKleer

[NewKleer]

ive done peak values. just time trials and determine if heat is going to be an issue, and its good to go

will be organising for some testing with sydney people perhaps next weekend (26/27th). i may or may not have time trials stuff finished by then. it would be up to the individual if they wanted to then buy it right then (assuming they bring the bacon with them), but get an update down the track with the final version, or wait till ive finished it (and potentially fixed any problems found in testing) before getting it (either way, those able to help with testing will have first dibs)

send me a pm if ur interested and dont live too far away from blacktown (if u dont know where it is, you probably live too far away )

[NewKleer]

ive half-way done time trials

ive opened a group buy thread over here: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=130985

most people who've express interested in this thread have been added to the "interested" list. see that thread for more info.

[RB SANDY]

hi can you wire this one in to the ecu because I have a rb25 in a r32 gtst and the wiring might not be there.

TAHNKS

[NewKleer]

if u go to a wrecker and cut out a female consult port from a N14 pulsar (most common), u can wire that into ur ECU.

get a hold of a ECU pinout for ur ECU and i can tell you what to wire where. Theres IGN(12V switched), GND, CLK, TX and RX - you can probably find it on the ecu pinout yourself. Theres a 6th wire, CHK, which u can wire up for the dash light flashing diagnostic code stuff, but its not specifically needed for this.

You need to have a stock ECU of course.

This is what each of the wires on the female consult plug is:

Looking into connector

 ________________________ 
/						 | 
|  RX  TX   - -  - -  IGN | 
|						 | 
|  GND CLK  - -  - -   -  | 
\ ________________________|

Edited October 1, 2006 by NewKleer

[RB SANDY]

thanks

[NewKleer]

ahh thats why i thought i already replied, u posted in both threads