Hey Guys Im New!

[Tyranus]

this is going to be a temporary car for me, because im going to get another STi. But i still want power but not over the top because im only gona keep it for 1year or 2 the max

[RRR32_GoDzIlLa]

this is going to be a temporary car for me, because im going to get another STi. But i still want power but not over the top because im only gona keep it for 1year or 2 the max

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

yeah, my gtst is my runabout but i'll probably sell it soon and get something that doesn't chew so much fuel. maybe you should get a non-turbo 33 or 34, if it's going to be ur second car???

[Tyranus]

i have no car atm, i recently sold my VL Turbo aswell. So i rkn a R32 GTS-4 should be ok.. im thinking of a engine conversion.. but thats if i like it and deicde to keep it.. but most likely its jst going to be my taxi.

[TTT]

gts4 weighs more than the sti, weighs the same as an R32 gtr, has less power and torque than both.

usual mods of exhaust air filter, boost and some tuning will give it about the same power as a stock sti has.

don't think that it is in anyway a gtr or a baby gtr just cause it has a "SIMILAR" driveline.

that said, it beats walking.... so get one.

I'm 28 and my insurance is $1500 with Just cars.

My location can be seen in my profile on the left.

if you are looking at an Rb25 install, consider this..

engine = $2500

GTR gearbox = $1000 (yes the stock one will break with a modified rb25 eventually)

clutch, ecu, tuning, conversion cost for someone doing the work for you...

etc..

in the end, you will have a car that makes the same or less power as a GTR with boost and exhaust... which would have been cheaper to buy..

but it's your money

[Dee 33]

You're keeping it for a year and doing an engine conversion?

The GTS4 will be slower than a standard WRX (non-sti). Don't expect it to go fast at all unless you are prepared to spend a few thou. Nothing against the cars, they're great. But the RB20 is weak enough already. The extra weight just makes it worse.

Saying that though, you will be able to drill it's gearbox a lot harder than a WRX's (non-sti).

[Tyranus]

im not 100% on the engine conversion. and i got quated $3,350 from just cars for a 1990 HR32GTR . So which car will be faster? A modded R32 GTS-t or modded GTS-4 upto 160rwkws-180rwkws... im gona keep it for a year or two but i might put on a fmic and a exhaust. I like the GTS-t's but im more of a AWD man.. but ive driven my cousins skyline a few times now and RWD is stating to grow on me!

[Robbo]

After I got my GTR a mate of mine bought a GTS4 for half the price of my GTR. And he got precisely half the car..

GTS4s are ok, but in my mind the lack of torque that RB20s suffer means they are much more suited to rear wheel drive. I'd much prefer a GTST with an RB20 (or for that matter an RB25) than a GTS4.

I've driven a GTST a GTS4 and I own a GTR.. Don't think that a GTS4 is a baby GTR, because they lack lots more than just 0.6L of engine capacity.

Trust me its better to go with the RWD. GTSt

And P.S BNR32 is a GTR and I'm pretty sure RNR32 is GTS4 and RCR is GTSt .. Eitherway the HR is definately not GTR.

Edited January 27, 2006 by Robbo

[cowie165]

Isn't it:

BNR32 = 2.6L plus 4WD

HNR32 = 2.0L plus 4WD

HCR32 = 2.0L in RWD

[Big Rizza]

Just don't be fooled into thinking that an AWD Skyline will handle anything like an AWD STi. The characteristics are completely different. The AWD skylines are essentially are rear wheel drive car, with some power sent to the fronts when the rears are slipping. It does not offer the idiot proof security of permanent all wheel drive. Definitely have an extensive test drive before you buy.

If you are expecting STi handling, you will be disappointed, not because the Skyline's handling is worse, but because the Skyline's handling is different.

[Are_thirty_two]

get the rear wheel drive r32, atleast then youll be different to a gtr and have some rear wheel kick and atleast have some fun, something which the gtr doesnt have. awd =boring

[Tyranus]

thanks for the replies guys.

1- Arent 1993+ R32 GTR's BNR and the lower ones HR?

2- I dont expect the GTS-4 to be as fast/handle like a STi. (STi is out of its league)

3- Ive made up my mind, i had fun with a STi but in a few months il be getting a R33 GTR (MOST Likely if not def R32GTR)

thanks for all the replies