Ahoy Hoy - Noobie

[NUKEYA]

hey fellow skyline freaks.

i'm 19 still on my Ps and currently looking at getting a manual 4door R32 non-turbo.

yeah i know it sux getting a NA skyline but insurance for a P-plater with turbo is pretty expensive and that's if you find anyone that will insure you lol.

my plans are:

full body kit, rims, dropped, exhaust sys with extractors, POD, aaaamm yeah that's pretty much what i have in mind at the moment. i'm looking at keeping it till i get off my Ps then probably an RB25DET conversion or just sell it and get a turbo car.

is there anyone that owns/ has owned an NA 4door 32, what are they like, performance and handling wise.

thanks heaps

Matt

[r32skyline_89]

They handle like a dream, but performance wise aren't anything special. It would be a good car to get to start off and look great. Would be a good idea to do a conversion when your off your P plates then your talkin power

[NUKEYA]

They handle like a dream, but performance wise aren't anything special. It would be a good car to get to start off and look great. Would be a good idea to do a conversion when your off your P plates then your talkin power

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what kind of power do they make anyway in stock form? i know GTSTs make about 160kw i think <_<

you wouldn't happen to know their 0-100 and 1/4 mile times would ya?

cheers

[r32skyline_89]

what kind of power do they make anyway in stock form? i know GTSTs make about 160kw i think  <_<

you wouldn't happen to know their 0-100 and 1/4 mile times would ya?

cheers

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

1/4 mile time would be in the 16 sec but couldn't tell ya the 0-100 time . power wise probably around 100kw but not too certain, will find out for ya though be back in 10 or so.

[r32skyline_89]

http://www.jbskyline.net/R32/Sedans/Specs/#gts

tells you a bit on this link but doesnt mention much about 1/4 mile times or 1-100 times

[NUKEYA]

thanks a lot mate i realy apreciate your help.

ok i've got one more question and i'll shut up, now i don't wanna sound like i'm obssesed with drifting but is it hard to get them to slide, i mean do you have to work hard just to get it to slide around a corner lol.

thanks

[Pantera999]

So your getting an rb20de or 25de? What i suggest, go a 31. You can get em (theres 2 for sale on r31skylineclub.com) with an rb25de in em, and some with rb30de. They are cheap, they are reliable, I have one ( ), and they go good as well. It'll only be for a while, and they are sleeper 4000. Love em.

[NUKEYA]

So your getting an rb20de or 25de? What i suggest, go a 31. You can get em (theres 2 for sale on r31skylineclub.com) with an rb25de in em, and some with rb30de. They are cheap, they are reliable, I have one ( ), and they go good as well. It'll only be for a while, and they are sleeper 4000. Love em.

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nah man i'm not really a fan of 31s but yeah it's definately 32 and if i find one with 25de why not.

[Big Rizza]

I haven't driven a nat atmo skyline of any kind myself, but my stocko R32 turbo sedan get sideways sooo easily in the wet that I'm sure there is plenty of sliding fun to be had, even in the atmo engined models. But just to be sure, I checked the ever reliable Autospeed.com for their impressions. Autospeed is teh bomb.

"The vehicle on test here is a RB20E single cam 2.0 litre R32 GTE sedan fitted with a 5 speed manual gearbox. Producing 96kW at 5600 rpm and 172Nm at 4400 rpm, this is hardly a speed machine but, with a free flowing exhaust, we were pleasantly surprised to discover 0 – 100 km/h performance in the mid 10s. Acceleration is enhanced by relatively short gearing.

Even with its modest power and torque output, the rear-wheel-drive GTE R32 can easily be provoked into power oversteer. You can’t hold a massive tyre-smoking drift, but the independent rear certainly lets you have some fun. Note that a LSD was fitted to our test car. Wishbone front and a sophisticated independent rear are standard across the R32 range and the GTE’s spring and damper rates are very soft. The GTE 5 speed weighs in at 1240kg – considerably lighter than any of the turbo models."

Complete article here http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2278/article.html

Edited January 28, 2006 by Big Rizza

[NUKEYA]

0-100 in 10 seconds. f**k me dead that's slow

[Freddy Kruger]

i think that a rb20e has a huge 95kw at the flywheel. altho i think the r32 NAs have a rb20de which has about 120kw at the fly.

compare that to a rb25det with 185kw.

Prepare to be blown away by bogans in stock commodores... personally id try for a GTS4, with the rb20det. none came with a rb25de, unless it is an aftermarket.

where in Aust are you?

[NUKEYA]

Prepare to be blown away by bogans in stock commodores..

where in Aust are you?

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you mean stock V8s or V6s

it'll atleast beat a V6 commo wouldn't it wouldn't it

i'm in melbourne

[r32skyline_89]

Dont worry mate when you do your engine conversion you'll have the last laugh. You can drift most rear wheel drive cars with an LSD. Last night was a stock as a rock sprinter n/a at queensland raceway and was doin alright. probably had around 90 kw, but like Big Rizza said in the wet you'll have a ball

[NUKEYA]

this is a stupid question but can you make a GTS sound like it's got a turbo somehow lol, i'm not talking about flutter or BOV but just the spooling of the turbo. i've heard POD air filters make that noise when they suck in the air but is there a certain brand of PODs that have louder sucktion noise. don laugh god damn it...........lol

Edited January 28, 2006 by NUKEYA

[Big Rizza]

this is a stupid question but can you make a GTS sound like it's got a turbo somehow lol, i'm not talking about flutter or BOV but just the spooling of the turbo. i've heard POD air filters make that noise when they suck in the air but is there a certain brand of PODs that have louder sucktion noise. don laugh god damn it...........lol

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Just throw a bowl of this in the back.

Note that I am not laughing

And as far as the V6 commo vs. the RB20DE R32, I think the Commodore would win. But let's not turn this into another vs. thread!

Edited January 28, 2006 by Big Rizza

[Freddy Kruger]

4 door r32 with rb20de

114 kw @ 6400 rpm - 184.37 Nm @ 5200 rpm- 1280kg

VS V6 Sedan

147 kw @ 5200rpm - 304 Nm @ 3600rpm - 1380kg

and we'll leave that part of the discussion at that.

the only way i think you could have the sound of turbo would be to put in a turbo... the only other way that i have witnessed is a vacuum leak in the manifold. it made a freind car sound like it had a supercharger when he reved it out...

Another freind was contemplating getting a r33 gts, and installing a CRS Supercharger on it. up the boost, give it a tune and it would be sweet. once i told him the awesome power of a NA skyline (note sarcasm) he was put off the idea...

Edited January 28, 2006 by Freddy Kruger

[funkymonkey]

gaffa on the forums has a sweet little RB25DE powered 4 Door R32 GTS25 (well technically it started its life as an GTE). Its a great car for daily driving, and goes a little better than an RB20DE. Personally if I was limited to an N/A on a budget, this would be my solution... its got enough power to keep you happy till you're off your P's and 4 door skylines are gaining street cred for being superstar drift cars

I used to have an R32 GTS (RB20DE), with stainless mandrel bent extractors, exhaust, etc. Used to sound great (for some reason everyone thought it was a turbo). Again, great car for daily driving, and I even took it out to a couple of motorkhana days and had some fun in it. Even beat a couple of turbo R33's in some timed events

[racsov500]

Last night was a stock as a rock sprinter n/a at queensland raceway and was doin alright.

yeah but it would bog down through the main corner lol

was this the grey one with the muffler bouncing around?

[NUKEYA]

Just throw a bowl of this in the back.

Note that I am not laughing 

And as far as the V6 commo vs. the RB20DE R32, I think the Commodore would win.  But let's not turn this into another vs. thread!

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hahaha ok ok. i was just curious it's not like i'm getting it for dragging or anything, there's too many cops down where i live anyway lol. as long as it's a fun and enjoyable car to drive and i can have a bit of fun with it (a powerslide everynow and then )

[AMS]

Possibly a Gilma Drive?