2006 F1 Season

[Beer Baron]

haha, that sparked a nice debate. my point was yes massa has finished in front of schuey but more often than not he gets blown away by MS. both in quali and in race. talk to me about team orders all you want, but in a very similar car, he is no where near as good as MS. I wont say he's a hack, but he's not in the same class.

[Beer Baron]

one figure tells a good story so far this year. MS 106 points. FM 62 points. less than half of MS.

also sad that webber is in 15th place on the table only ahead of his team mate, Klien and Liuzzi (table doesn't show people on 0 points though). and he's equal on points with Kubica who's only been in 3 races and he's 1 point off Vilenueve.

very bad year for williams. so much promise came to bugger all.

[dezz]

haha, that sparked a nice debate. my point was yes massa has finished in front of schuey but more often than not he gets blown away by MS. both in quali and in race. talk to me about team orders all you want, but in a very similar car, he is no where near as good as MS. I wont say he's a hack, but he's not in the same class.

do we have an amen smiley?

[djr81]

At this stage of the year there is very little in the way of evolutionary development left in the cars. A large part of the teams resources are necessarilly focussed on next year & in any case there are only so many things to improve on a car before you have to fundamentally change it.

As a great many commentators have noted, the important difference will be whether or not Michelin can infact do a better job than Bridgestone over the remaining few races. You would have to say that Bridgestone have been the tyre of choice for the lest three or four GP's. This has a much greater impact on the teams relative performance than almost anything else at the moment.

And, no Michelin don't built Renault engines any more than Bridgestone build the front suspension on a Ferrari.

[gtr660hp]

one figure tells a good story so far this year. MS 106 points. FM 62 points. less than half of MS.

also sad that webber is in 15th place on the table only ahead of his team mate, Klien and Liuzzi (table doesn't show people on 0 points though). and he's equal on points with Kubica who's only been in 3 races and he's 1 point off Vilenueve.

very bad year for williams. so much promise came to bugger all.

How is it sad...Williams and webber got the year they deserved ..nothing ha ha

[ctjet]

And, no Michelin don't built Renault engines any more than Bridgestone build the front suspension on a Ferrari.

that isnt a subconscious swing at the "massdamper-gate" scandal is it?

[Beer Baron]

How is it sad...Williams and webber got the year they deserved ..nothing ha ha

that may be your opinion, but it's not mine. webber certainly deserved a car far more reliable than the one he was handed.

[djr81]

Given how Mark has driven this year (quite often dragged the Williams around the circuits & soundly beaten his team mate) & also how he has bitten his lip & not paid out on the team for their lack of reliability I fail to see how any one could not have respect for the year he has had.

[gtr660hp]

that may be your opinion, but it's not mine. webber certainly deserved a car far more reliable than the one he was handed.

No Webber got what he deserved for wanting a Williams drive when other better drives were on offer- I say suck sht to him for a discraceful lack of judgement.

His driving has been good to very good no doubt-his choice of team was woeful so he needs to just cop it sweet-which I think he has done very well

I dont rate Webber very well in the natural driver dept (he is no Senna) but he is a hard worker and sponsor's dream-but thats doesnt win races in an average car now does it - but i hope he has a better year next year but I dont think that will happen in any hurry-once again not the best judgement in team choice(unless Newey can pull a magical rabbit out of the hat)

Edited September 14, 2006 by gtr660hp

[Muz]

It's Official (well almost) RBR to have Renault power next year!

[djr81]

Official how?

[Muz]

Official how?

Flavio said so!

[ctjet]

lol

[ctjet]

Red Bull gets Renault engines

Renault has reached an agreement with Red Bull for the supply of engines for the 2007 and 2008 Formula 1 seasons. It has yet to be decided, though, whether Red Bull Racing or Scuderia Toro Rosso will run the French V8s

Better than the Ferrari flamin mongrelomer engine that seems to be a handful for the current customers... which in tern is better for webbo

[ctjet]

this'll be good to see...

Edited September 16, 2006 by ctjet

[gtr660hp]

Im lookin forward to some F1 action in our time zone (no more fkn late nites) bring on China & Japan......I hope Shumi can take it to the Spanish hair dresser and make it come down to the last race in Brazil

Edited September 18, 2006 by gtr660hp

[blackrex]

Unfortunately, we will still most likely have to wait till after 11pm for each of the "local" races as they clash with the channel 10 news and the Bathurst coverage.

[gtr660hp]

Unfortunately, we will still most likely have to wait till after 11pm for each of the "local" races as they clash with the channel 10 news and the Bathurst coverage.

I remeber one year the Japanese F1 followed on from the bathurts' taxi festival' coverage

[ctjet]

that would be true... f1 is immedietly after bathurst

8 hours straight of motorsport... cant wait

[gtr660hp]

Well 6 hours of Taxi's and 2 hours of Motorsport...but yeah will be a big day in front of the TV