2006 F1 Season

[ctjet]

very mature of you

oddly enough nobody really has anything bad to say about Renault, i would've though that them being french was more than enough reason... that and they've been whipping asses for the last couple years

[djr81]

I didnt say the world was against, just the bad loser wingers who follow the fkn sht house pommy based fkn loser F1 teams-fk em-FORZA FERRARI-Micheal and Kimi in a red car next year on 'their' Bridgestones will wipe the floor with everyone and especially uncle Rons pathetic silver fkn shit boxes-BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- now some one pass me the Galliano

Yeah, if the pommie engineering etc is so shthouse why did Ferrari have to resort to making their cars in England at one stage? GTO = Guilford Technical Office...

I think the reason people have issues with the way Ferrari goes about their "racing" is that so much of it is inherently dodgy.

BTW, if Schumacher is so bloody good why does he need to have Massa flogging around on Friday and Saturday destroying his tyres just to provide him with set up data?

[ctjet]

not to metion handing over an extra set of brand spanking new tyres to use in the race for heir schumi

while everyone tries to play fair... for shame

[djr81]

Actually, while I think of it if their tyres are so bloody good & their engineers so clever, why don't they comply with the cap on testing that every other team was happy to?

[dezz]

how many teams run on bridgestone ladies? and how many of those are considered top teams?

one...

how many teams run on michelin, and how many of those are considered top teams....thats a lot more data for michelin

[ctjet]

thats ferraris fault for not wanting to share data and monopolising tyre performance between 2000 - 2004

oddly enought the same years they were uncatchable... strange

[dezz]

Well next year will be good, now that the other top teams have to try it on bridgestones

[djr81]

how many teams run on bridgestone ladies? and how many of those are considered top teams?

one...

how many teams run on michelin, and how many of those are considered top teams....thats a lot more data for michelin

Ferrari put themselves in the position of being (Last year) the only front line team to be running on Bridgestones. That it burnt them by denying them data & hampering the Bridgestone engineers can only be regarded as poetic justice.

Edited August 11, 2006 by djr81

[dezz]

so based on that, they must be a far better team than any other to still be in a championship winning position, whilst doing it on their own so to speak....while renault has the advantage of shit loads more data

[djr81]

Bloke, look up the history books. Ferrari didn't win jack shit last year.

[dezz]

Bloke, look up the history books. Ferrari didn't win jack shit last year.

ok "bloke"

what about this year?

[gtr660hp]

ha ha I knew if I put up a post sounding like a crazy man it would invoke some passion into this thread (it was a joke post-ctjet )

And to all those Shumi bashers-7 World Champoinships, maybe 8 if this year comes good-a record that will never be beaten-so all you non ferrari shmucks can go beaten your meaten

Edited August 11, 2006 by gtr660hp

[ctjet]

i know it was a joke, thats why i asked why doesnt anyone bag Renault... its very odd. I think people have this perception that they're more a "flash in the pan" team and wont last too much longer. Very sad for a team with a lot of F1 history

[djr81]

ha ha I knew if I put up a post sounding like a crazy man it would invoke some passion into this thread (it was a joke post-ctjet )

And to all those Shumi bashers-7 World Champoinships, maybe 8 if this year comes good-a record that will never be beaten-so all you non ferrari shmucks can go beaten your meaten

It only invokes passion because of Ferrari's consistent behaviour in putting their own short term self interest infront of the good of the sport. Occasionally is comes back & bites them in the arse - at which point a great many people smile.

[ECR033]

ha ha I knew if I put up a post sounding like a crazy man it would invoke some passion into this thread (it was a joke post-ctjet )

And to all those Shumi bashers-7 World Champoinships, maybe 8 if this year comes good-a record that will never be beaten-so all you non ferrari shmucks can go beaten your meaten

Most of Schumi's World Championships had a lot more to do with the driver than the car, particularly in the early years.

Ferrari were rubbish for a LONG time before Schumacher (and his entourage - i.e Brawn, Rory Byrne etc) came along and revived some glory for Maranello and I dare say they'll eventually start heading backwards again once Schumacher, Brawn, Todt and Byrne leave or retire.

In reality, Schumacher is largely responsible for making Ferrari what it is today.

Schumacher is Ferrari at the moment and without him, well, they're not much!

Just my 2 cents - puts flame suit on

[Beer Baron]

i'm happy to bag renault. just give me a min.

[djr81]

C'mon Baron, bring it...

[Silver-Arrowz]

Mclaren, Ferrari, Renault suck. Go Super Aguri!!!

Go! "Crash"uma Sato!!!! If you can't beat them, crash into them.

[djr81]

Most of Schumi's World Championships had a lot more to do with the driver than the car, particularly in the early years.

Ferrari were rubbish for a LONG time before Schumacher (and his entourage - i.e Brawn, Rory Byrne etc) came along and revived some glory for Maranello and I dare say they'll eventually start heading backwards again once Schumacher, Brawn, Todt and Byrne leave or retire.

In reality, Schumacher is largely responsible for making Ferrari what it is today.

Schumacher is Ferrari at the moment and without him, well, they're not much!

Just my 2 cents - puts flame suit on

I have to profoundly disagree with you (Apart fromt he bit about Ferrari being crap, ofcourse)

If a brilliant talent such as Eddie Irvine can almost win the championship in a car, it speaks more of the car than the driver. I would rate Brawn & Byrne up there with the very best. Add in the biggest budget in F1, unlimited testing etc etc etc & the wonder is that they haven't won more championships.

The question has always stood: If Schumacher is so good then why does he need a #2 driver entirely subservient to his needs. Or run into everyone else when the pressure is on (Like last week, for instance).

Yep, he can drive, but he has a glass jaw (& a large one at that).

[djr81]

Mclaren, Ferrari, Renault suck. Go Super Aguri!!!

Go! "Crash"uma Sato!!!! If you can't beat them, crash into them.

Good point, well argued. We have been ignoring the burgeoning talents of the next world championship team.