2006 F1 Season

[gtr660hp]

All the Ferrari/Italian bashing here makes me laugh...how many of you guys have lived in Europe and really have a clue what ur talking about.........not many

Edited September 12, 2006 by gtr660hp

[Deluxe]

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at the end of the day its not just motorsport at this level ...

Yeh well if you had billions invested into F1, it wouldn't be just a motor race either, I think these days it comes down to sponsors, after all they are the ones funding the majiority of it!

it's just a shame it's not like the old days anymore! but hey what can you do!

[djr81]

All the Ferrari/Italian bashing here makes me laugh...how many of you guys have lived in Europe and really have a clue what ur talking about.........not many

Personally I refuse to even discuss F1 with anyone who hasn't spent atleast 6 months backpacking through Europe.

[dezz]

Alonso wasn't penalised simply because he was ahead BEFORE he tried to turn into the chicane. Which is to say, for exactly the same reason that Schumacher wasn't penalised in Hungary. Doesn't stop the decision being a stupid one on both accounts, however...

the point is that he was only ahead because he broke so late, too late to make the turn properly, so he just went straight across the grass, and never gave back the position

[gtr660hp]

Personally I refuse to even discuss F1 with anyone who hasn't spent atleast 6 months backpacking through Europe.

Ha ha- typical ignorant aussie rant

I have lived In italy on and off for years and lucky enough to have met Chris Dyer a number of times through a friend and the politics of F1 would make your head spin..but just throwing the blame at the officials when the golden child Alonso doesnt win is ignorant at best...V8 supertaxi is more for ignorant aussie folk...not all aussie though..because there have been some amazing aussies involved in F1 over 50 years

Edited September 12, 2006 by gtr660hp

[djr81]

the point is that he was only ahead because he broke so late, too late to make the turn properly, so he just went straight across the grass, and never gave back the position

As I said, I think it was a bad decision - as was the one relating to Schumacher in Hungary. Both drivers should have been penalised.

The GP drivers themselves are up in arms about it - simply because it makes no sense.

[djr81]

Ha ha- typical ignorant aussie rant

I have lived In italy on and off for years and lucky enough to have met Chris Dyer a number of times through a friend and the politics of F1 would make your head spin..but just throwing the blame at the officials when the golden child Alonso doesnt win is ignorant at best...V8 supertaxi is more for ignorant aussie folk...not all aussie though..because there have been some amazing aussies involved in F1 over 50 years

The politics of F1 is one of the principal reason why so many disfunctional decisions get made. By and large it is because, for want of agreement, a bad decision is implemented simply because it is preferable to the status quo. Too many teams do what is in their immediate short term interest - to the detriment of the sport & as often as not their own long term interests.

The officials in question, in my opinion, made a bad decision. Part of the duty of the officials is to be independent and not influenced by lobying or other factional interests. When this doesn't occur, well does anyone remember the farce that was the last iteration of the WTCC?

BTW, what have V8's got to do with it?

[NISMO]

Ha ha- typical ignorant aussie rant

I have lived In italy on and off for years and lucky enough to have met Chris Dyer a number of times through a friend and the politics of F1 would make your head spin..but just throwing the blame at the officials when the golden child Alonso doesnt win is ignorant at best...V8 supertaxi is more for ignorant aussie folk...not all aussie though..because there have been some amazing aussies involved in F1 over 50 years

Just to clear things up, I was not throwing blame just cause Alonso didn't win. I was pi$$ed off about what was shown on the telecast which was Alonso way ahead of Massa, and this part of the footage being referred to as the reason he was penalised.

As for Alonso being a "golden child" my word he is. F1 needs alot more Alonso's on the grid. The kid is young, a very very gifted driver, has been winning and has got a following. With "God" (not meant in negative way - I am a big fan of what he has achieved) now retiring who will be the new face of F1 - Kimi (Mr personality) raikkonen???

On a side note, I think living in Eurpoe is in no way a measure of someone's knowledge of F1. I am of European background, have lived there and have many relatives all over Europe, some of which don't know what F1 stands for :-)

At the same time you have a lot of people on this forum who are very keen observers of F1 and have been following F1 for a very long time, and discounting their opinions because they haven't lived in Europe is a little over the top.

My 3c

[Savage Bliss]

wher the hell did BMW come from?!!?

Fantastic effort by Robert Kubica to keep Massa behind him all race!! They look damn good for 07...

Yes Bravo Kubica... Bye Bye Schuey! hehehe! Thank f&*k for that! And how is it he wouldn't shut the f*&k up the other night! Jeez!

[dezz]

Yes Bravo Kubica... Bye Bye Schuey! hehehe! Thank f&*k for that! And how is it he wouldn't shut the f*&k up the other night! Jeez!

you're kidding right? He was announcing his retirement...I think he is entitled to a retirement speech

[gtr660hp]

Just to clear things up, I was not throwing blame just cause Alonso didn't win. I was pi$$ed off about what was shown on the telecast which was Alonso way ahead of Massa, and this part of the footage being referred to as the reason he was penalised.

As for Alonso being a "golden child" my word he is. F1 needs alot more Alonso's on the grid. The kid is young, a very very gifted driver, has been winning and has got a following. With "God" (not meant in negative way - I am a big fan of what he has achieved) now retiring who will be the new face of F1 - Kimi (Mr personality) raikkonen???

On a side note, I think living in Eurpoe is in no way a measure of someone's knowledge of F1. I am of European background, have lived there and have many relatives all over Europe, some of which don't know what F1 stands for :-)

At the same time you have a lot of people on this forum who are very keen observers of F1 and have been following F1 for a very long time, and discounting their opinions because they haven't lived in Europe is a little over the top.

My 3c

I was discounting the aussie know it alls

How many have been to Monza etc

How many have been to the team HQ's

All they know is what they read is bullsht magazines like F1 etc

Its ok for everyone to have an opionion but im sick of the Ferrari/Italian bashing here........

Edited September 12, 2006 by gtr660hp

[ctjet]

maybe if they didnt cheat and rig sports like Serie A, people would leave em alone

Edited September 12, 2006 by ctjet

[ctjet]

its sad that when schumi retires that Alonso will be the on F1 champ on the grid...

thats a pretty sad state of affairs

[NISMO]

its sad that when schumi retires that Alonso will be the on F1 champ on the grid...

thats a pretty sad state of affairs

Completely agree. I think the F1 dudes have a big problem on their hands. Someone like Shuey has amassed a legion of fans that are loyal to him and not Ferrari or F1. His fans spend big on his merchandise and alot go to F1 to see him on the track, not Ferrari and not the sport of F1. I could be wrong but I'd really like to see attendance records for next year compared to the last couple of years. Actually i hope I'm wrong!

The problem also get's bigger when you look across the paddock and find that drivers with a personality are far and few between. Which is why I personally think the F1 should be promoting Alonso more than anything at the moment.

Also I think his retirement was very poorly managed. If I knew next season was Shuey's last i would definately be at the Melbourne GP and more than likely would have tried to get to Malaysia as well. The guy needs to have a farewell season.

[ctjet]

Completely agree. I think the F1 dudes have a big problem on their hands. Someone like Shuey has amassed a legion of fans that are loyal to him and not Ferrari or F1. His fans spend big on his merchandise and alot go to F1 to see him on the track, not Ferrari and not the sport of F1.

yeah i agree with that... you see most people cheering for schumi and Ferrari just a by-product of their support. Of course there are a lot of Ferrari fans out there, but im guessing a large contingent of them with have nothing to wave in the air next year.

[Beer Baron]

yes, he definately should have had a farewell tour. like i said 2 pages ago. it would have packed every GP on the calendar. and some of those people would be first timers, and afterwards would think: "that was great, let's come back next year".

I'm very glad I made the trip down to melb earlier this year for his last race in aus.

[ctjet]

if he did announce his retirement a year early the he would have had to deal with harrasssment all year about what he intends to do after F1,who does he think will fill he's spot etc etc. I dont think the press would have let him enjoy his final year.

[gtr660hp]

yeah i agree with that... you see most people cheering for schumi and Ferrari just a by-product of their support. Of course there are a lot of Ferrari fans out there, but im guessing a large contingent of them with have nothing to wave in the air next year.

I 'll be lucky enough to be at Japan GP this year to see Schumi for his 2nd last race. Then next year bring on Kimi for the reds..I havnt looked forward to a F1 season like next years in a long time

It wiil be so intersting seeing how the big boys settle into their respective new teams...including Webber who I fear will do nothing special just like this year.

[ctjet]

Alonso just gave schumi a decent spray on the radio in Spain... tis a good read.

but yeah, 07 looks to be a cracker...

[dezz]

Alonso just gave schumi a decent spray on the radio in Spain... tis a good read.

but yeah, 07 looks to be a cracker...

whats he crying about now?