Blocked Rear Oil Feed Caused Turbo Failure

[silver gts-t]

Pete sorry but how is bolting on 2 400hp turbos any different then bolting on one 800hp turbo

edit: to run nines with I mean

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i think he wants to run 2x gtrs turbos

[Swiper the Fox]

Pete sorry but how is bolting on 2 400hp turbos any different then bolting on one 800hp turbo

edit: to run nines with I mean

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I think what Pete was getting at is the fact that the general consensus is to run 9's requires a big single turbo...as this is the way most ppl go. The fastest low-mount GTR b4 us was 10.78..which in the scheme of things is run of the mill in a serious drag GTR. To run 10.36 on 2530's on street rubber without gas was unheard of....and to run a 9 on low mounts (and im talking general mindset here) is unachieveable....but i always like to tread a different path and go against the grain...so the goal of running 9's with low-mounts in a full weight car on street rubber without gas is right up my alley.....did i mention synchro manual transmission and a single plate clutch ?

Edited February 3, 2006 by DiRTgarage

[pnblight]

Pete sorry but how is bolting on 2 400hp turbos any different then bolting on one 800hp turbo

edit: to run nines with I mean

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Because he wants to go faster not slower

his managed 10.3 with 640hp twin

Name me a faster 800hp turbo single than 10.3 or even close to that

By going to just a larger twin combo he should increase hp and terminal speed with out losing to much bottm end or mid range AND still retain the std factory look and feel to the car.Which you cant do with the single combo.

But can we stay on topic

Paul all this talk about block oil lines isn't making feel to good about have std oil lines on the GTR but i will say i'm very carefull with the lines and always flush/wash and blow out the line when ever the turbos are off.

9 secs low mounts with full interior thats crazy, do you know what the fastest low 1/4 time is out of interest?

And if you don't mind me asking what is the ball park cost the lines upgrade on the turbos worth?

pete

[pnblight]

So your saying if he went to a single 800hp turbo he'd be slower

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in a word yes

look at the top run gtrs world wide

last time i looked there wasn't a single in the top ten

and to compare running combos in australia the twin on munro's,KW and GTR700 kill the big single if i'm not mistaken and i have not seen a 800hp single go near two6l so why would it go fast then a bigger twin combo on two6l.

for best spool efficience on a turbo it is best to not exceed 4 cylinder per turbo just look at the new 1000hp biggia(have no idea on the spelling) street car and if you want Documentation try reading the book "FORCED INDUCTION" by Gramham Bell.

[2rismo]

Singles, Twins, who really gives a shit??

GTR's are cheating anyway.

Sounds like an otherwise informative thread turning bad because of a single, solitary smartarse. Don't worry Paul, I'm sure that some people appreciate your information.

All the argumentative thread destroyers need to remember this:

It is better to appear ignorant and remain silent than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Go team twoogle!

Adrian

[R31Nismoid]

OK you asked for one car with a 800hp turbo that comes close how about Leewah?

car has approx 440rwkw when it did 10.3

[BU5TER]

thanks for that great input nismoid, it remided me of why I don't post anything serious in this section guess its back to stirring the pot for me

pnblight maybe when your running 10's or 9's and showing me how it is I'll listen to you until then I know what I've done at one meet and will stick with my own ideas

thanks back on topic now

[CruiseLiner]

if u went single u wouldnt have this problem

jk guys, and good luck running a nine in the future

low mounts just seen boring imho, but thats my opinion, and obviously twins aint too bad if everyone uses them '

p.s. another pnblight twin turbo bandwagon post i see, everyone join in for the ride

cheers

Brad

[pnblight]

paul can i ask would do you think was the cause of the blockage?

and can i ask the type of oil you were running at the time (if you dont want to post it pm please as i'm very interested) as when i worked in Engine Reconditioning industry we sent a number of oil sample for testing and discovered that one praticular oil brand had caused numerous engine failures.

I wish you the best with the GTRS turbos as you have done amazing well with the 2530's , i look forward to see the results between the two as i so nearly bought a set but was put of by the bad rep the coped at one stage and the awesome results i had gain from the garret gt2560r.

pete

ps 9sec low mounts (THATS THE SHIT)

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guys just like to point out i didn't take this topic of track and never even mention singles BUSTER you asked me a question and i answer if by using real cars to make my point and published documentation. People wonder why i hold so fast to my ideas because can so many company and people be wrong Gramham Bell refers to the very principles and develop of turbos through F1 and world rally, if you don't believe me have a read seriously.

the reason the twins work better is Physics, the clearer the impulse signal the more efficient the spool on a turbo. for example why does a 2litre 4 cylinder spool a turbo better than a 2litre 6 cylinder, they flow very similar flow rates but it's the impulse signal that’s is different.

you can't seriously tell me Lewah custom garret is rate at 800hp and he managed and awesome effect

- 446 rwkw @ 27psi @ Racepace Motorsport DynoDynamics Dyno.

- 0-400m [email protected] mph - 1.6932 60' - Heathcote Park 20 July 2003.

Guys i'm not telling you what to run or buy if you like your single great but not hassle me about it i just am a fan of a car with small low mounts, afms and pfc thats has managed to blow anything like it away, and if drags were my thing i would most likely be out competing again him but my interest lays on the circuit.

pete

ps everyone is allowed to have there own ideas so don't hold mine again me.

[Swiper the Fox]

Singles, Twins, who really gives a shit??

GTR's are cheating anyway.

Sounds like an otherwise informative thread turning bad because of a single, solitary smartarse.  Don't worry Paul, I'm sure that some people appreciate your information.

All the argumentative thread destroyers need to remember this:

It is better to appear ignorant and remain silent than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Go team twoogle!

Adrian

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I don't care as long as it boosts

I love to cheat

Thanks mate

i love that line

Its all about the car...im just the lucky bastard that gets to go along for the ride.

[pnblight]

if u went single u wouldnt have this problem 

jk guys, and good luck running a nine in the future

low mounts just seen boring imho, but thats my opinion, and obviously twins aint too bad if everyone uses them '

p.s. another pnblight twin turbo bandwagon post i see, everyone join in for the ride 

cheers

Brad

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cruiseliner that is not fair i only complemented paul on his success and wished him well for the future and i'm brand for leading this thread off line. What a crock of shit

[B0BB0]

Hasnt that r34 gtr that was owned by jason with "RH9" on the plates run a low 10 on 2530's aswell, these turbos seem to be really good.

[R31Nismoid]

Ye, but your talking a car that was stripped, even had the door skins out and crap.

I dont think it had glass either when i saw it @ heathcote.

[NXTIME]

10.8, IIRC.

[teejay]

Since they are the heaviest GTR, stripping it would simply bring it back closer to the weight of a 32 or 33

Its a valid time for the turbos it has

[Sweet T]

Dirtgarage = 2 years 30psi race fuel = 10.36 well done but not bettered in 12 months nearly that I've noticed and where is the nine that was spoken about so much in your old posts

pnblight = 11.33 with less power then he has now = its to fast to take back

Simon = 10.91 one meet pump fuel 22psi = for the win

Got Boost Sean = 10.9 one meet pump fuel 22psi = for the win

buster = 10.5 one meets pump fuel and 20psi = for the win

given time these cars will show you what a single can do

2 cars in Perth a lot quicker then you pnblight what happened to "nothing comes close to you"

Edited February 4, 2006 by Sweet T

[pnblight]

Dirtgarage = 2 years 30psi race fuel = 10.36 well done but not bettered in 12 months nearly that I've noticed and where is the nine that was spoken about so much in your old posts

pnblight = 11.33 with less power then he has now = its to fast to take back

Simon = 10.91 one meet pump fuel 22psi = for the win

Got Boost Sean = 10.9 one meet  pump fuel 22psi = for the win

buster = 10.5 one meets pump fuel and 20psi  = for the win

given time these cars will show you what a single can do

2 cars in Perth a lot quicker then you pnblight what happened to "nothing comes close to you"

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WTF i have never said i was a good drag racer (it never really interested me personally) the only two meets i have run were when we had no local circuit track to run at (collie was shut) the only other threads i have done we been of the develop and the findings on my car the exact thing i thought this forum was for YES?

i nearly walk away from this forum 12 months ago but Sydneykid talked me out of it, but if the trust back up facts is not well come then so be it.

As for me going back to the drag i might but not only if i feel the need to not because so bozo thinks i got to prove something

I dont really want to have fork out for a $6000 dollar box for a 10sec drive down a straight piece of road (as you all know its cost simon alot on boxes to achieve what he has done and my hat is off to him but it arnt my thing)

and one small fact you left out was i didn't have a built motor or high lift cams and ran turbo hp rating much small then the singles you named, but comparing apples with apples isn't needed is it.

Edited February 4, 2006 by pnblight

[pnblight]

paul great work get thread for information on the oil lines, best of luck with the GTRS turbo.

pete

[Swiper the Fox]

Dirtgarage = 2 years 30psi race fuel = 10.36 well done but not bettered in 12 months nearly that I've noticed and where is the nine that was spoken about so much in your old posts.

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I have only raced this car on 5 occaisions and ran 10.36 at Jambo...hardly 12 months...late september actually. I ran an 11.2 the first time at the track and after the gearbox was sorted ran 10.8 first pass slowly improving the ET to 10.38 by the end of the day. To run a 9 with this set up is a difficult task as it is not a path well trodden. We love the knockers as its the ability to rub peoples noses in their dribble which spurs us on.

We dont need to be educated on what a single turbo set-up can do on the strip, as its the way most people go and the results are well documented.

Edited February 4, 2006 by DiRTgarage

[BU5TER]

my god the gimps on SAU grow more and more each day