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Garrett family of GT30 UHP Turbine based turbos , aplication HKS / Garrett .

Next time you say you have a "GT30R" it could be any of these or maybe others .

Unit part no , CHRA , Note no .

700382-0001 , 700177-0001 , 01) Unknown but maybe 2835 48T , 84T Turb

700382-0002 , 700177-0002 , 02) 2835 52T , 56.6mm 84T Turbine .

700382-0003 , 700177-0003 , 03) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 84T with .64 a/r .

700382-0004 , 700177-0004 , 04) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 90T Turbine .

700382-0005 , 700177-0001 , 05) Unknown .

700382-0006 , 700177-0002 , 06) 2835 52T , 56.6mm 84T Turbine .

700382-0007 , 700177-0003 , 07) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 84T with .86 a/r .

700382-0008 , 700177-0005 , 08) Unknown , suspect GT3037 48T .

700382-0009 , 700177-0006 , 09) GT3037 (GT30R) 52T , 60.1mm 84T Turbine

700382-0010 , 700177-0006 , 10) GT3037 (GT30R) 52T , 60.1mm 84T Turbine

700382-0011 , 700177-0007 , 11) GT3037 (GT30R) 56T , 60.1mm 84T Turbine

700382-0012 , 700177-0007 , 12) GT3037 (GT30R) 56T , 60.1mm 84T Turbine

700382-0013 , 700177-0008 , 13) Unknown

700382-0014 , 700177-0009 , 14) GT3040 , 50T GT40 Comp , GT30 Turbine .

700382-0015 , 700177-0008 , 15) Unknown

700382-0016 , 700177-0009 , 16) GT3040 50T

700382-0017 , 700177-0001 , 17) Unknown .

700382-0018 , 700177-0002 , 18) 2835 52T , 56.6mm 84T turbine .

700382-0019 , 700177-0003 , 19) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 84T Turbine .

700382-0020 , 700177-0004 , 20) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 90T Turbine

700382-0021 , 700177-0004 , 21) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 90T Turbine

700382-0022 , 700177-0008 , 22) Unknown

700382-0023 , 700177-0009 , 23) GT3040 50T (.70a/r) , 1.12 Turb a/r .

700382-0024 , 700177-0003 , 24) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 84T Turbine .

Real Garrett GT3071R

CHRA 700177-0023 - GT30 Turbine with 71.1mm 56T GT35 Compressor .

TO4S compressor Type GT30 Based BB Turbos .

CHRA

700177-0010 , 56.6mm 84T Turbine , TO4S 48T

700177-0011 , 56,6mm 90T Turbine , TO4S 52T

700177-0012 , GT30 84T Turbine ....., TO4S 56T

700177-0015 , GT30 84T Turbine ....., TO4S 56T

700177-0017 , GT30 84T Turbine ....., TO4S 52T

Garrett GT3040 56T

CHRA

700177-0014 , GT30 84T Turbine ....., GT40 82mm 56T Compressor .

Garrett GT 3082 BB .....

Not sure about this one , was once shown a 7/14 blade compressor "equivalent" of a GT3040R so could not be GT40 compressor .

Turbo , CHRA , Turbine housing A/R .

714569-0001 , 700177-0018 1.06

714569-0002 , 700177-0018 0.82

714569-0003 , 700177-0018 0.63

Do not confuse this one with 714568-0001/2/3 which is the GT3540R series and uses CHRA no 706451-0005

Where there are repeats in CHRA numbers mostly its the compressor and housing A/R's/type ie GT28 or GT30 that differ and this shows as a different assembly number .

Feel free to add or challenge the numbers as different lists often have conflicting numbers .

Cheers A .

Turbine housing breakdown to come plus specs of Garrett "GT3071R WG" and the HKS GT3240 if I can find them .

Continued :

HKS exhaust housings to suit the 56.6mm 84T Turbine GT2835 series

T28 Flange . Integral Wastegate in .64 and .86 a/r .

T3 Flange . Integral Wastegate GT Pro S style in .68 and .87 a/r .

External Wastegate in .61 .73 .87 1.01 and 1.12 a/r .

HKS exhaust housings to suit the 56.6mm 90T Turbine GT2835 series .

T28 Flange . Integral Wastegate in .86 a/r only .

HKS exhaust housing to suit 60mm GT30 turbines ie all GT3037 and GT3040 , also Garrett GT30R and GT3071R 700177-0023 CHRA .

T28 Flange . External wastegate in .61 .73 .87 1.01 and 1.12 a/r .

T 3 Flange . Integral Wastegate GT Pro S style in .68 and .87 a/r .

T3 Flange . Garrett make ext gate versions in .63 .82 and 1.06 a/r .

Cheers A .

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bubba Grand Master

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Aiming for 400rwhp for now with huff to go over 500 at a later stage. Engine is an RB30DET with forgies, stock rods, NA cams, 550cc injectors, z32 afm and the other usual supporting mods. Tuner and mechanic have both advised GT35R with a .82 housing but other than that I don't know what I'm looking for.. need a specific part number so I order the right thing :D

Will be going on low mount tubular manifold with external gate.

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discopotato03 Grand Master

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Cubes and Mafia both have IW GT3076R's , Mafia up north and Cubes down south - or was that South Aus ? Anyhow depending on where you are you could ask them where they got theirs . All you have to do is insist on the 700177-5007 (sometimes marked as -7) cartridge (CHRA or centre housing rotating assembly) . The real Garrett IW GT30 turbine housings only come in three sizes so 0.63 or 0.82 or 1.06 A/R ratio (area to radius ratio) .

If you are really unsure or untrusting get them to send you a pic of the turbos ID tag and exhaust housing .

Just looking up the GT3582R with 0.82 A/R non gated turbine housing .

From Garretts online catalog that turbo is 714568-2 . For the 0.63 A/R turbine housing version 714568-3 and the 1.06 version 714568-1 . They all use the same 706451-5 cartridge (CHRA) .

If you wanted it in the propper GT35 IW exhaust housings you could talk to Brett Lloyd of GCG or Garretts franchise in Sydney at Chipping Norton .

Personal opinion , a GT3582R is a lot of turbo for an RB25 and way too much for me . I think its significant that some are using GT3076R's on RB30DET's and really like the results , to me this says that even this turbo may be a tad big for what many are realistically going to need on a street RB25DET .

95% of my time and some money is going into another project ATM but when I get to the R33 I think I'll look into the cropped GT30 turbine based turbos (GT2835/GT3071R) but in smaller 71mm compressor trims ie 48 and 52 . These were only ever HKS options though the cartridges are starting to become available I'm told . It urks me that Garrett won't do anything serious with GT30 turbine trims or make propper turbine housings for the cropped turbine but at least HKS make nice GT Pro S IW turbine housings for it and they are more common 2nd hand than the 3037 Pro S IW exhaust housing . I would also lean towards a T04B rather than T04E compressor housing with small and mid trim 71mm GT compressors because they are a fair bit more compact and would tend to keep the gas speed up with a smallish compressor .

For what I want this is the easiest way to go about it with conventional components , I'm not overly concerned about how many Kw's it could crank out because I don't have a need to go flat out everywhere .

Outa time , A .

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I'm not sure how to edit my posts with this new format , the list I typed in 2006 eigth down mentions turbo number 700382-0008 Cartridge (CHRA) number 700177-0005 . I confirmed it is the HKS spec GT3037 with 48 comp trim option .

I don't think they have been made for some time and the only pics I ever found show them having the plain or non port shrouded T04E 0.60 A/R compressor housing .

A .

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48T GT3037 would be an odd-ball but still interested to see if anyone had ever seen or used one. I suspect it would/could have been spec'd for those twin GT3037 setups for RB26 that were floating around a few years back

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Dale the twin 3037 RB26 setups I read about years ago were generally the 52 compressor trim versions .

Actually one of these 48T 3037's was sold second hand here in the past year or so and I would have grabbed it only it was pretty pricey and someone else was keener to spend the money than me .

HKS listed the 48T GT3037 as having the same power output as their 56T GT2835 but I suspect the 3037 with the full sized GT30 turbine would have been a better single on say an RB25DET . Also note that there was only one turbo part number for the 48T 3037 an d the few pics I could find show them all having non port shrouded compressor housings .

A few more happy snaps , cheers A .

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