Fuchs Oils

[Trex101]

Well by saying an API SM oil is good, then I guess everyone can get away with GTX2 then? API specs are not hard to meet. ACEA are tougher.  <_<

Every half decent oil is API SL/SM rated now. Mobil 1 is SM. So is Castrol GTX2. Does that mean they are as good as each other? Obviously not. So by saying Fuchs meets API SM its suddenly a great oil? No. OE certs are usually harder to meet than API standards such as MB and VW's so they are more relavant. (Although I wouldn't expect GT1 to meet OE specs just like 300V, Redline etc)

Looking at raw details such as the base oil, the additive packages and performance in UOAs is more of an indication of how good an oil is, not just what API spec it is. And Fuchs in this regard have shown nothing out of the ordinary. 

Then again any oil isnt even at least API rated SL, it doesn't be deserved to be put into any car whatsoever!

Cheers  B)

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A great site for UOA results: BITOG

[Busky2k]

Yep BITOG. A memeber for a long time now..

[m&m]

Anyone have any experience with the Martini brand of oils???

[Busky2k]

Never heard of their oils, just the fuel. That makes you wonder...

[kingscorp]

Well by saying an API SM oil is good, then I guess everyone can get away with GTX2 then? API specs are not hard to meet. ACEA are tougher.  <_<

Every half decent oil is API SL/SM rated now. Mobil 1 is SM. So is Castrol GTX2. Does that mean they are as good as each other? Obviously not. So by saying Fuchs meets API SM its suddenly a great oil? No. OE certs are usually harder to meet than API standards such as MB and VW's so they are more relavant. (Although I wouldn't expect GT1 to meet OE specs just like 300V, Redline etc)

Looking at raw details such as the base oil, the additive packages and performance in UOAs is more of an indication of how good an oil is, not just what API spec it is. And Fuchs in this regard have shown nothing out of the ordinary. 

Then again any oil isnt even at least API rated SL, it doesn't be deserved to be put into any car whatsoever!

Cheers  B)

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I never said Fuchs API SM was suddenly a great oil, I am just trying to help you guys out with some information. Well go buy the oil that your Skyline recomends. You probably dont know what it is. Should be JASO something.

I am not here to try and brain wash anyone that Fuchs is the best, if you read my earlier posts you will see that I said most oil company's are good. But if you are after a MB or VW spec to put into your Nissan, Fuchs will have it as they are initial fill for both

I provided information on Fuchs products and some helpfull information. Now im geting shot down for trying to help people. no wonder i stopped visiting this site!

Go pay $100 for Redline and drain it after 5000 kms I dont care. If you think i am tring to do this to help Fuchs sales in retail your mistaked. One decent size transport or earthmoving company spends more per year on lubes than several autoshops put together.

You believe your car is demanding on oil. Think about how much work a lube has to do when towing 128 tons thru heat and dust and not be drained until 80,000 kms. Or a 18 speed roadranger gearbox doing 500,000 kms per drain.

By the way everybody would get away with GTX2. It would take anything you guys could dish out.

ASH

[Busky2k]

Wow man take a chill pill. Its just a discussion forum. I never meant to offend you. My apologies if I came about this way. I didnt read that you work for Fuchs either. Actually I would have a few questions heheh..

Anyways oils are like peoples favourite drink, no matter how good a drink is to you, others may still not like it.

Cheers.

Edited February 18, 2006 by Busky2k

[Trex101]

I never said Fuchs API SM was suddenly a great oil, I am just trying to help you guys out with some information. Well go buy the oil that your Skyline recomends. You probably dont know what it is. Should be JASO something.

I am not here to try and brain wash anyone that Fuchs is the best, if you read my earlier posts you will see that I said most oil company's are good. But if you are after a MB or VW spec to put into your Nissan, Fuchs will have it as they are initial fill for both

I provided information on Fuchs products and some helpfull information. Now im geting shot down for trying to help people. no wonder i stopped visiting this site!

Go pay $100 for Redline and drain it after 5000 kms I dont care. If you think i am tring to do this to help Fuchs sales in retail your mistaked. One decent size transport or earthmoving company spends more per year on lubes than several autoshops put together.

You believe your car is demanding on oil. Think about how much work a lube has to do when towing 128 tons thru heat and dust and not be drained until 80,000 kms. Or a 18 speed roadranger gearbox doing 500,000 kms per drain.

By the way everybody would get away with GTX2. It would take anything you guys could dish out.

ASH

Hey kingscorp, we appreciate your sharing of knowledge with us on Fuchs lubricants. We are also learning everyday, peace. I think what Busky2k is trying to say is API standard is pretty normal, almost all decent oil brand can make it. It's the ACEA A3 standard which must meet a min HTHS of 3.5 or MB 229.3 standard which separate the good among the average oil.

Anyway what i think is most important in a oil are the

HTHS figure ( for Hydrodynamic lubrication)

anti-wear additives ( for boundary lubrication)

surfactant, detergent level ( engine cleanliness)

Perhap with your insider knowledge, you could disclose some data of fuchs lubricant for our discussion.

[kingscorp]

Sorry if i got a bit hot headed.

Let me do some researh for ya

ash