Stock Gt-r Vs. Modified Gts-t

[Ionos]

Hi all,

I'm facing a bit of a conundrum.

My 96 GTS-T was stolen last year and I'm looking at getting another one in the next few months. The thing is, I can't decide whether or not to get a GT-R and keep it relatively stock, or buy a modified GTS-T.

Advantages of GT-R are obvious - 4WD, bigger brakes, more power in stock form, better seats, better suspension etc.

Advantages of GTS-T - cheaper (both to buy, maintain, and insure), lighter, IMO looks better (I personally prefer the Series 2 GTS-T bodykit over the GT-R body kit)

What are your thoughts. Is there a compelling reason why I should get a GT-R over a modified (220-250rwkw) GTS-T, which would turn out cheaper anyhow? My old GTS-T was only 170rwkw, and not quick enough!

[Maxx]

if u can afford one

GTR for sure

[**JaR**]

GTR, nuff said.

[Ionos]

Hehe - could you guys elaborate on why? Over a similarly quick GTS-T.

[R31Nismoid]

Another one of these threads?

For goodness sake...

[Ionos]

Another one of these threads?

For goodness sake...

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Thanks for the helpful response!

[FORZA]

if u personally like the look of the gts-t then go for that... its your car n u should enjoy wat u drive n buy the car according 2 ur tastes not an1 elses...

[Abo Bob]

Maybe look at one with a rebuilt engine and a bit of work done to it. At least then you know it has something over a similar aged GTR with no rebuild.

[rev210]

Having owned both cars the GTR is a better experience driving wise.

[ish]

nothing beat's Factory R&D and performance IMO ..

a GTR is an upgrade model by Nissan compared to the Gts-t so ask your self why would you want a midrange model when it will not go as hard legaly with out tweaking it to a genoralized sometimes illeagal weaker threshold , will depreciate faster and you will get pumped by other GTR's as far as handling.

[GTRgeoff]

I own both. GTR is my daily, GTS25t is my track car. The GTR is naturally stiffer and quicker for a novice to drive. GTS25t is my "challenge" car as I have to be more precise to go fast.

[frankxinyu]

nah actually GTRs are just GTSTs with special bodykits......its like optional leather in Nissan Maximas.bloody show ponies. why get a GTR??

to be honest with u, i would buy which ever you like the most. if you prefer GTS-T, buy it!!! personally i much prefer the look of GTRs, leaving the performance alone.

[wilch]

GTR... If you're buying a skyline you're going to want to upgrade bits and pieces yeah?

The GTR will keep you happier longer. There's only so far you can go with the GTST, and then by the end of it you realise that with all the money spent you could've bought a decent GTR.

I'm speaking from experience. Although, being where I am now, I wouldn't change a thing.

[wilch]

I own both. GTR is my daily, GTS25t is my track car. The GTR is naturally stiffer and quicker for a novice to drive. GTS25t is my "challenge" car as I have to be more precise to go fast.

Wow!! Dude, I have that connundrum. I've done all this stuff to my gtst, yet want a GTR. Then I was thinking, if I had a GTR though I would want to run that on the track instead. Then what would my gtst be used for?

Hmmmmm.... Can you expand on your experience? Do you ever want to drive the GTR on the track instead of the GTST? Do you regret doing stuff to the GTST? etc.

[GTRgeoff]

No conundrum no regrets. The sprints I used to run in were not for sheep stations, but I liked getting the most out of the GTSt. My plan is to move it on and have a dedicated, unregistered race car but there are no reasons that a GTSt won't be as fast as a GTR on the track. What I constantly see are GTR's with the same mods, the same lack of proper setup and so on and similar lap times to each other, and yet the couple that are well set up are a serious margin faster again. The GTR is simply a better starting point for a novice, but ultimately would be slower around the track due to weight with a decent setup. The GTSt needs stiffening, suspension, responsive power, diff, and when we get this fast possibly greater braking capacity, but it will corner so fast less braking is needed. I'm just not willing to do this to my perfectly registerable GTSt, so will be letting it go for a new race car.

Otherwise it's all personal choice. I like every one of the 5 cars I have, and need good reason to part with any be it RWD, FWD or AWD.

[wilch]

No conundrum no regrets. The sprints I used to run in were not for sheep stations, but I liked getting the most out of the GTSt. My plan is to move it on and have a dedicated, unregistered race car but there are no reasons that a GTSt won't be as fast as a GTR on the track. What I constantly see are GTR's with the same mods, the same lack of proper setup and so on and similar lap times to each other, and yet the couple that are well set up are a serious margin faster again. The GTR is simply a better starting point for a novice, but ultimately would be slower around the track due to weight with a decent setup. The GTSt needs stiffening, suspension, responsive power, diff, and when we get this fast possibly greater braking capacity, but it will corner so fast less braking is needed. I'm just not willing to do this to my perfectly registerable GTSt, so will be letting it go for a new race car.

Otherwise it's all personal choice. I like every one of the 5 cars I have, and need good reason to part with any be it RWD, FWD or AWD.

Interesting . Thanks for the insight dude.

I recently took my car out onto Oran Park for it's first track outing and found that I was lapping as fast if not faster than some GTR's that were also on the track. I guess my car has been modified alot more than those GTR's that were lapping around the same times though.

Which begs the question, if I had put as much into a GTR as I have put into my GTST would I have a much faster and more fun car to drive on the road and track.

Prior to tracking my car I was regretting that I had spent as much as I had. But since taking her on the track I couldn't be more happy.

[GT-R32]

Stock GTR, mod later if need be (which it probably will).

You forgot resale too (although it has been mentioned now), a GTR will always hold its value over a GTST.

[32line]

GTR all the way.

[Yts]

if you are contemplating between you have to weigh up the options.. i own a GTS 4 has the same running gear as the gtr just the smaller engine and gearbox.. but sure u could pick one up equally as good as a gtr.. i aint complaining bout mine but a gtr is just a so much better platform in terms of performance..

[Kinks]

totally depends what your priorities are. your heart and head will tell you one way or the other (normally in contradiction with each other!).

I came up on the choice myself, for $20k I could get a mint R33 S2, or for $24k I could get a good R32 GTR. The GTR's been a dream car for as long as I can remember but it would be a bit of a waste as a daily, insurance is more, they cost more to look after, and I'd be worried about someone nicking it.

Hence I went the 33. But if I had a garage and a shitter to get to work in the choice would have gone the other way very quickly