Using Atf As A Fuel/injector Cleaner

[jezzerrr]

I've heard a few stories of putting a cup of ATF in your fuel working a treat. anybody know of any draw backs other than the obvious ie pinging etc? apparently it does a better job than using injector cleaner but.. that's also made for the job... I have a ultrasonic bath I can gain access to, but achieving the same result just by driving the car seems alot more appealing than having it off the road and apart for a few days.

Jeremy

[Busky2k]

ATF wont do anything to clean the injectors.

Use a bottle of Caltex Techron 5000, thats the stuff that works.

[Beer Baron]

no way will any of those additives do anywhere near the job of actually removing and properly cleaning and flowing your injectors.

[justin911]

how do you do that ?

no way will any of those additives do anywhere near the job of actually removing and properly cleaning and flowing your injectors.

[Busky2k]

You remove the injectors and take it to a specialist who cleans them ultrasonically.

That by far is the best way, but it costs about 20 bux an injector.

But the Techron is probably the best stuff you can get in a bottle besides removing the injectors.

Edited February 25, 2006 by Busky2k

[jezzerrr]

I got quoted $300 for ultrasonic cleaning by driftking in brissie. $700 for a service made me fairly sure they were rip off merchants. I'm going to pull an injector out today and have a look at it under a microscope today, see if i can see anything. I think I'll just bite the bullet and pull the lot out and ultrasonic bath em. Thanks for the replies guys, putting oil through my system didn't really seem like the best thing to do...

Out of interest, what is the price of hiflowing injectors? What sort of kw are they good for? Is it worth it or is it better just to buy newies?

[Busky2k]

I wouldnt put them into an ultra sonic bath that you clean your jewelry. Thats how you ruin them cos it can damage the solenoids.

The professionals have them hooked up to a rail and pulse the injectors with cleaning fluid whilst the *nozzles* are in the ultra sonic bath, not the whole unit!

[jezzerrr]

Hey Busky

Thanks for the advice, yeah I've been doing a fair bit of researching on the net today (god i love work on the weekends), and as always, I have found that it's not as simple as it first seems.

The U/S bath that I have access to is actually in the lab here at work, but yeah essentially I think it's the same jobbie as the jewellery cleaners. why dont they have an injector rail here dammit! lol.

I'm pretty much sure now that I'm going to get the injectors hiflowed now anyway. I did take injector 1 out today and found the nozzle to be completely spotless under the microscope. The inlet filter had a bit of junk on it, so I think I'll just run some of that techron gear through it, if I do anything, before hiflowing them.

[Busky2k]

To clean the filters most people 'backflush' the injector but its pretty hard to do with the injector off the car cos you need to open the injector somehow. (And dont try it with a battery!)

If you're gonna get them high flowed, just leave em alone and let the guy do the work haha.

Btw Techron is good on removing deposits on the backside of the intake valves aswell.

[jezzerrr]

yeah the way I figure it, it cant hurt to put a bottle through anyway. I just have to wait till i'm in the vicinity of a place that stocks it. I luuuuurve living in the sticks <_<

I kinda broke one of the little legs off the pintle cap too from what I can find they're mainly to stop residue build up, so it should be fine in the interim.

[paulr33]

hiflowing the injectors wont give you any more power it just means the can inject a little more full at 100% duty. they will only pump in more fuel when the ecu tells them to

[jezzerrr]

yeah i'm doing the whole bit, turbo, ecu etc. can you even run hiflowed injectors with the standard ecu? I'm pretty sure you cant yeah?

[paulr33]

you would probably be better of getting s15 480cc ones or nismo 550cs instead of hiflowing

you will need an aftermarket ecu to support those.

i am not sure how hiflow injectors will work with the stock ecu

as i think the latency would be the same for idle control ? i have no idea on that matter sorry

[jezzerrr]

yeah as you can see i'm still learning too. my laymans understanding suggests that the stock ecu would not have the ability to tune to different flow injectors, regardless if they're flowed stockies or other.

[paulr33]

the stock ecu definetly wont work with different injectors as the latency for them is different. i think with hiflowed injectors on stock ecu it just runs mega rich

[PHATR32]

oil in your fuel???

i heard if you get sand and pour it in your intake, while someone is reving to 7000, ports your head. good for around 100rwkw

[LBR33]

oil in your fuel???

i heard if you get sand and pour it in your intake, while someone is reving to 7000, ports your head. good for around 100rwkw

How about no......

[Tangles]

oil in your fuel???

i heard if you get sand and pour it in your intake, while someone is reving to 7000, ports your head. good for around 100rwkw

funny

[jezzerrr]

oil in your fuel???

i heard if you get sand and pour it in your intake, while someone is reving to 7000, ports your head. good for around 100rwkw

holy crap really!!! I'm so going to do that tonight!!!

Idiot

I'd appreciate if you didn't turn my legitimate thread into just another spam thread, thanks. Take your "phat" arse to boostcruising if that's your thing. There is evidence that it actually works, mechanics have been doing it for years.

Jeremy.

Edited February 27, 2006 by jezzerrr

[PHATR32]

sorry if i offended you....

its just that putting oil in your fuel sounds a little too weird.........