R34 Stock Intercooler On R32

[Johnny Cash]

Yeah, I can get all sorts of Jap parts dirt cheap.

When I read about how much people pay for parts, I laugh and cringe at the same time!

Hey, drift limo, what did you mean by this:

"All you need is to find a cheap metal fab place and get them to chop the inlet off and weld it on the other side..."

Do you mean i have to make a new ic pipe for the inlet side, as thats what I'm looking to have done.

Don't want to cut into the endtanks or anything!

[Roy]

Yeah, I can get all sorts of Jap parts dirt cheap.

When I read about how much people pay for parts, I laugh and cringe at the same time!

If you can get them dirt cheap, then why not use them...you get what you pay for. If your only keeping your car short term then do the things that give you the best results, exhaust from cat back and a filter. Leave it at that...and save your money.

...yeh, thanks, it snice ot know im a sucker because i enjoy my car

[Johnny Cash]

...LOL, sell your R32 now then. If your not part of the brotherhood/suckers then

Your either with us or against us...as for your schmansy Evos/rotors etc, sure you could use an neon battery operated elctric toothbrush... but real men chew on the bones of bulls they have slayed with their own hands...you will find us behind the wheel of our GTSTs, and real R32 owners/lovers never sell them, we get buried in them or crash them in fiery infernos

LOL, in case your not cringing, if i add it up over 5 years of ownership, im guessing im staring at about 30-40k on my car, thats maintenance and mods

R34 side mount...seriously, if your thinking short term with the car, i wouldnt nother with anything other then exhaust and filter..., what bar does your car have, perhaps look at a Supra SMIC then it could be worthwhile given the fact that you get little airflow through that part of the car

What planet did you come from?!

[Roy]

What planet did you come from?!

no idea, but im loving these new smilies, just need to rant a little so that i can use then

From what i have read the R34 GTT cooler takes a little bit of tweaking to fit, so why not use a thicker core like that from a Supra :confused: Probably cheaper to boot, and provided with a bit of ducting may get a reasonable result as little MR2 have to make do with similar setups

[RBFIRE]

70 bucks for r34 IC?

man, i paid 180 for mine on ebay, and still i havent got it yet, its been 5 weeks,

ship from japan.

u got any more of those johnny cash?

[Johnny Cash]

Nah sorry buddy.

[TTT]

roy - supra side mount will not fit skyline side mount spot.

but it would be nice..

they are 110mm thick

[J_R32]

does anyone have a step by step guide on how to fit a r34 SMIC to a r32?

all i am looking for it what piping needs to be made up to make it fit.

[Sydneykid]

I have used an R34GTT SMIC on an R32GTST and it made 205 rwkw, no problems, all day, everyday. It's an easy and cheap mod and I was very happy with double the standard power. TargaTas did the same and he achieved ~220 rwkw (his engine was fresh).

We get very glib on SAU about 200 rwkw not being enough, and you not trying if you don't have at least 400 rwkw. Well 200 rwkw is plenty enough for lots of people and it makes an R32GTST pretty damn fast. So I have this opinion that if the guy wants 200 rwkw then we should help him how to get there for the least cost. Not tell him he should be aiming for 300 rwkw.

So to answer the question on how ottfit an R34GTT intercooler to an R32GTST, you have two choices;

1. Modify the intercooler pipework in the engine bay (as per page 1 of this thread) so that it fits up to the R34GTT intercooler rear outlet.

2. Cut off (from the rear) and reweld (onto the front) the pipework on the R34GTT intercooler outlet tank. All I did was take my R32GTST intercooler and the R34GTT intercooler along to my local aluminium welder (in the yellow pages). I told him I want this (the R34GTT intercooler) to have the outlet on the rear just like this (the R32GTST intercooler). Cost me $50 and he did it while I waited.

Hope that was of some help

cheers

[TTT]

Gary.

I'm interested to know what sort of intake temps were had using the r34 cooler on a rb20 making 200rwkw all day, every day.

to me that says it worked well at 200rwkw being used on a circuit where you are on boost and using those 200rwkw frequently.

I assume this was on your r32 back when it had the rb20 in it, and I recal you had a fair few temp readings for it like before turbo, after turbo and after intercooler..

[EVL R33]

Johnny Cash,

if you are planning on staying with the stock turbo and running only a couple of extra psi boost, I'd forget upgrading to a 34 SMIC and just put a water spray on it. They make a huge difference (have one on my rex) and for my money are better BFYB over a 34 SMIC upgrade...

my 2c..

cheers

Brett

[Staunch]

hmmm interesting read. i got an arc side mount lying around, interested in a swap johnny? the inlets match the r32's so i think should be a straight swap....

[TTT]

I'd take that offer..

[Sydneykid]

Gary.

I'm interested to know what sort of intake temps were had using the r34 cooler on a rb20 making 200rwkw all day, every day.

to me that says it worked well at 200rwkw being used on a circuit where you are on boost and using those 200rwkw frequently.

I assume this was on your r32 back when it had the rb20 in it, and I recal you had a fair few temp readings for it like before turbo, after turbo and after intercooler..

Yep, I have the actual numbers somewhere. The R34GTT intercooler was around 68% efficient for cooling at ~200 rwkw. That compares pretty favourably with a standard R32GTR intercooler on the same engine which was 72% efficient at similar power levels. At 200 rwkw and 7,250 rpm, the R34GTT intercooler (and pipework) had 1.5 psi restriction at 1.3 bar. The R32GTR intercooler, with larger pipework and similar power, was 0.75 psi. So even the airflow wasn't too bad.

That's why I am using an R34GTT SMIC on the Stagea, I know it won't have any problems with 200 4wkw.

cheers

[TTT]

was this using completely stock rb20 intercooler pipes?

[Resin]

and for any one interested ...the r34 gtt side mount is a straight swap into a rb20det cefiro .....

its involves a tiny bit of cutting ......(like 20mm out of the corner of the stock bumper and removing some of the splash guard) Basically you use the stock mount positions and brackets and everything lines up fine.

And definately a noticable difference in power which i sorted wasnt expecting. Mods - Stock exhaust with panel filter and 11-12 psi boost.

Edited April 24, 2006 by Resin

[jazza08]

They are fine intercoolers, but are intended for 7psi on a stock rb25 turbo no more... remember nissan produced intercoolers on the gtst/gtt's to be able to deal with the heat/pressure produced from factory. I in no means want to argue with Sydneykid as he knows his stuff very well but for the price of a fmic and the safety it brings with it i wouldnt consider messing around with a side mount.

I think you'll notice after a few taps on the accelerator the small little smic will get quiet heat soaked on 12psi on a normal day!

[TTT]

that's what I thought, but SK's temp numbers don't say so..

and that's proof from actually doing it rather than guessing..

[jazza08]

Gary is that after its been running for awhile on the dyno... or after you've given it stick say 4-5 times in a row? As thats when i would of thought the smaller GT-T cooler would suffer heatsoak?

Edited April 26, 2006 by jazza08

[xRHETTx]

I think having a FMIC would be more of a safety concern than having an upgraded SMIC. Look at all those idiots out there cutting up their front bumpers, supports etc... that has to be detrimental for safety.

When I get around to it i'll definately be putting an r34 gtt cooler on my r32 gtst, it just makes sense, especially if ur not chasing 250kW (which is a lot of money more than 180-200kW.)