Kkr And Monsta Turbos

[BOVed]

Been shopping around for a new turbo for my R33GTST and have seen a few Monstas on Ebay and been told about the KKRs on the Oshimoto site just after some opinions

[mad34]

my mate just put a kkr turbo on his r33gtst series 2. surprisingly i goes pretty well. aparently it bolted up really nice too. he just needed to get a silicon elbow made up to come off the front of the turbo.

[lows_13]

I've seen a few cheap ones on Ebay, would be good to hear from someone thats actually used one. Apparently the KKR turbos are pretty good.

[LBR33]

Ebay turbos are BAD......have a look at these links

http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110947

[S13Deviat]

Mad34 - Did ur mate get it dyno'd with the KKR turbo on the RB25? I assume it was the KKR430!?

I too am looking around for a bigger turbo as dropping a RB25 into the Cefiro.

[Links]

Jeeepers.. that's not good..

anyways - yeah what are the KKR's like.. problem is no-one has had them on for probably more than 6months.. what's gonna happen in 2 years?.. is it gonna have an issue or still be going 100%..

could be a case of "you get what you pay for"..

[LBR33]

the kkk turbos are blitz so they must be a quality item

[IFRYCE]

^^^ No they aren't ya dumbass!!! That's KKK. KKR are those cheap ass turbos from Otomoto.

[Blitz]

the kkr turbos are blitz so they must be a quality item

You are incorrect.

[LBR33]

^^^ No they aren't ya dumbass!!! That's KKK. KKR are those cheap ass turbos from Otomoto.

i stand corrected no need to be a a**hole about it

[JaFF]

wow they are cheap. after selling your stock turbo you'd only be up for a few hundred dollars.

the 430 would probably be ideal for the rb25det but I wonder how laggy the 480 is. for the extra $70 you';d think it'd be worth it.

[paulr33]

i mean its its not like you need any supporting mods for a turbo swap </sarcasm>

fiddlesticks, it will never be that cheap unless you have all the supporting mods

[R31Nismoid]

KKR - Otomoto - www.otomoto.com.au

KKK - Blitz

Monsta Everything - All Ebay specials (special as in half of em never last so it a lottery)

There is one "interesting" result here about the KKR-480:

http://forum.r31skylineclub.com/index.php?topic=44524.0

As you'll see i've already alluded to the fact that the dyno figure is "interesting".

300rwkw on stock injectors and a 480hp turbo/15psi

Anyway, take it was you will, ive read no information to lead me to the fact the KKR/Otomoto turbos are ball bearing.

Meaning they are just bush bearing, and no different in performance (which wasnt the best) to sh|tty bush T04's of the years gone by.

Maybe slight wheel changes, but it'll never compare to a Garrett/HKS/Precision etc etc

My personal thoughts on it all:

1) If your getting an Ebay turbo beware, buy at your own risk as they fail often. Just because "someones" works, does not mean yours will. There is no warranty despite what they say

2) They are cheap, and cheap for a reason... to make a quality turbo costs money, so pay the extra 600-900 and get a proper turbo. If one fails, its costs you another 800, then you could have purchased a turbo that would give you car no down time, and better performance

[lows_13]

Simons currently running a KKR turbo

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...c=100456&st=180

Theres over 10 pages to read

Edited March 1, 2006 by lows_13

[R31Nismoid]

Simons currently running a KKR turbo

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...c=100456&st=180

and?

That link provides no spec of the car, not even which turbo is being used, or what motor

No dyno charts to give an indication of response

Can you provide it or something dude?

We need more detail before you can say "someone is using it" doesnt say a lot for a technical discussion like this which goes into more depth at times

[Let Me Drive]

Hello Scott,

The KKR-480 is $899. We also have a dump pipe available to suit the RB25 for $149 (suits standard or aftermarket front pipes).

To fit it on an RB25 you need to rotate the compressor housing and actuator to point the right way. The actuator rod also needs to be bent and adjusted to suit, while the compressor housing needs around 2mm ground off at one point, where it is too close to the exhaust manifold. You will also need a different bolt for the oil feed and a 2.75-inch V-band clamp. We have a mobile mechanic in Sydney who does the complete installation for $520 including the clamp.

We recently fitted the KKR-480 to an RB24, which made 256kW at the wheels on 1.35bar boost.

Here are some more specifications:

KKR480

T3 twin-port type flange (will suit normal T3 flange also)

Oil-cooled, large turbine housing (around 1.1)

Approx 480hp

Compressor side (similar sizing to smallest HKS GT3037)

Compressor inlet pipe 70mm

Compressor outlet pipe 50mm

Compressor wheel inner diameter 53mm

Compressor wheel outer diameter 76.5mm

12 blades, six 22mm high, six 16mm high

Turbine side

25mm flap-type internal wastegate

71/79mm V-band flange (inner outlet diameter 63.5mm)

Turbine wheel inner diameter 56mm (similar to HKS 2835R)

Turbine wheel outer diameter 73mm (similar to HKS T04R)

10 blades, 28.5mm high at tips

Ben Ellis

OTOMOTO Pty Ltd

45 Mary Pde Rydalmere NSW 2116

Ph. (02) 9898 1655

Fx. (02) 9898 1254

www.otomoto.com.au

On Friday, November 18, 2005, at 09:48 AM, scott andrew wrote:

and yes it is a bush bearing

[R31Nismoid]

Dear son of rajab...

Bend the actuator

Shave 2mm off the comp housing

New bolt for the Oil

V-band clamp

And dump to suit

As quoted $520 to install, plus the dump of $149

Suddenly the price is $1586, if you cant DIY

For less than $300 more... bolt on, no worries...

http://www.horsepowerinabox.com/HPIAB2/prod18.htm

[paulr33]

im more worried re: 1.1 a/r

its more than double the stock turbo housing size

[Let Me Drive]

thats y i never got one

[paulr33]

bending the actuator is a bit ordinary