Water Methanol Injection Kits - Get Up To 100hp.

[gtst25]

bit of research hey?

Did you stop to check and see if those prices were AU or US..

They look to be US to me....

So double them all and they seem to be higher than what I am trying to organise. Those kits are also the same as what I plan to get.

The system I am looking at - Comes with all the bells and whistles...

http://www.rx7store.net/ProductDetails.asp...gle+Deluxe+clog

Yeah it works out to be 440 us

Did a currency conversion today and it worked out at 599aud - I haven't seen the us dollar double the aussie for awhile! Not sure about delivery though - would have to look into it. Also if 10 or 20 kits were purchased they would probably come down in price.

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

Not sure about delivery etc - this is for the unit with the cooling mist controller - the whole shebang.

The Controller based package is designed for those that want a complete kit and are want every tool to make sure that things are working properly. This kit includes a Single stage kit with a solenoid, Brass water filter, digital air intake temp gauge with sender. This ships with our 1-25 psi adjustable boost switch and our Amazing Brass Checkvalve. 2.0 quart tank and taping kit and 150 psi pump. This kit also includes the PSI controller.

Features

Features

Base Kit Configuration +

Clog Nozzle Detector

Arm/Disarm Switch

LED

52 MM Digital Air Intake Temp Gauge

2.0 Quart Tank

Brass Water Filter

Controller

Professional Packaging

The only thing I don't like about this kit is it comes with a lower pressure pump but hell its still 150 psi!

Just trying to help you get a more affordable kit - I'm interested but not too interested in spending nearly 1500 dollars! That's more than nitrous!!!

I couldn't find anything else in aus although the evo and wrx guys make a lot of their own kits.

Cheers

Edited March 13, 2006 by gtst25

[SKY 34]

so what exactly happens when the reservoir is empty?

if the car is tuned for a higher octane rating then the water ran out, isn't it like driving using a 91 ron isntead of 98?

do they have water level gauge? so we know when the water is finishing

[The Mafia]

oh my god... before you guys made yourself look even more stupid, PLEASE read my first post. Read it twice actually.

The kit I want to get, is a little extra than this "$599au" one that gtst25 has brought to our attention because of these extras...

*Solinoid Upgrade - Stops gravity Feeding

*6 Litre Reservior

*Fluid Level Switch Upgrade - Indicates fluid level.

*Safe Injection™- boost/timing reduction system for use with the Boost Cooler® water/methanol injection system promises to revolutionize the industry by providing for safety even with the most aggressive tunes. So when the pressure drops, or the water runs out, the saftey system uses the solenoid below to reduce boost to save your engine.

*Wastegate Solenoid Upgrade - Solenoid such that boost is reduced in a wastegated turbo set-up.

the kit I want to get ALSO comes with a 220psi pump.

ok...I have been told that these kits can be supplied for very close to the $1k mark if ordered in groups of 5.

If that is the case, then we could be in business.

PLEASE read things a little better...... I'm sick of repeating myself, and having people trying to tell me that they have seen the same kit half the price elsewhere.... There is obviously a reason for that - no warranty, no extras, no safety mechanisms, has to be purchased from overseas and most likely need to sit in customs for 6 months, and the rest.

so once again I say....go back to the start...and read...

Edited March 13, 2006 by The Mafia

[Nightcrawler]

I think these are awesome in principle, and I looked heavily into getting a CoolingMist system a little while back.

Problem is, when I mentioned the kit to my tuner (Martin Donnon - you might have heard of him, he tunes Keir Wilson's R32GTRs, LS1Edit.com and writes for various magazines under various names) he said 'no bloody way' - he said the temperature of the water can change dramatically and is impossible to tune safely and efficiently. The tune changes from one water/methanol batch to the next and changes dramatically relative to the air temp, car temp and overall humidity.

Short version is, he quite strongly recommended against it, so I never went ahead.

[The Mafia]

well, I installed one, and I reckon my car has gained about 30rwkw - 40 rwkw. I managed to run 2psi more boost, and 7 degrees more advance on full load.

Definately worth every penny.

Sorry though, since so many people jumped on this thread and rode it like a $2 hooker with all of their unproven beliefs, the group buy is off.

Edited July 12, 2006 by The Mafia

[lokiR33]

i dont spose that you could post up some pics of the install for those of us that are still interested in w/m could you mate?

[REdgtst]

well, I installed one, and I reckon my car has gained about 30rwkw - 40 rwkw. I managed to run 2psi more boost, and 7 degrees more advance on full load.

Definately worth every penny.

Sorry though, since so many people jumped on this thread and rode it like a $2 hooker with all of their unproven beliefs, the group buy is off.

What kit did you buy, where from and how much?. I am interested in looking into getting one of these kits, although i prob should upgrade my turbs first. Did you do the install yourself? any pics?

[The Mafia]

I'll borrow my brothers digital camera and take some good shots.

I did the install myself, and I seem to think it is very professional looking, and very tidy. I had to cut half of the washer bottle of and get it plastic welded up so that I could fit in a bracket and the 2l bottle.

I didn't go all out and buy the whole kit, I just got the simple stage 2 kit with the Variable controller. Cost me $850. The 2l bottle if usually enough if you don't drive your car everywhere on boost.

Bought it from here:

http://www.full-throttle.com.au/Engine/Boost Cooler.htm

These guys are great, and will look after you. I will certianly be grabbing the rest of the safety systems off them when I do save enough money to buy them.

I've mounted the Bottle, and pump WAY below the jet so that it won't syphon on idle. I've also run out once, and yeah the car pinged, but the powerfc let me know asap, and it was only around the 4000rpm mark and wasn't bad pinging so yeah, I know now, to keep the bottle full. its not hard. I use about 2l of 50\50 water meth per tank of fuel. Meth is about $1.30 a litre, and water well, very cheap.

Car runs so much better now. You could even put 91 ron fuel in, and still get heaps better performance than 98 ron fuel alone. 98ron fuel, and water meth...well, thats another story.

Talk to Mark Alford at Full Throttle Performance. He's a champ.

Pictures over the weekend.

[datman55]

Thanks Mafia for the good words.

We have had a great deal of success with the Boost Cooler kits on various different cars, including Supercharged and Naturally aspirated cars. We recently supplied PWR with a kit to trial on their new LS2 supercharger kit.......they were very happy with the results are now looking at buying more kits to supply to their customers.

Any questions, feel free to ask.

Fixed the link

http://www.full-throttle.com.au/Engine/BoostCooler.htm

Cheers,

Mark Alford

Full Throttle Performance

[The Mafia]

I've posted some pics

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=126278