Nismo Z-tune Vs Mines Gtr

[lingeringsoul]

I've never seen both of them on the track at the same time on BMI, how would they compare?

[benm]

The Mines (and MCR) R34 GTR's eat it!

[Roy]

Dont forget that its still a factory car so there will always be plenty of modified cars that are quicker

[sav man]

The mine's GT-R would eat it, remember, the Z-Tune is a full weight car, and the mine's is pretty much a stripped out track car.

[Wink]

BMI have commented that the Mines R34 is faster than a JGTC vehicle - something I'm sure the Z-Tune is not.

But then imagine Mines tuned Z-Tune....

[Roy]

BMI have commented that the Mines R34 is faster than a JGTC vehicle - something I'm sure the Z-Tune is not.

But then imagine Mines tuned Z-Tune....

Hang on...even if you put it on slicks its not goign to be faster then a JGTC car

Just because BMI etc say it doesnt make it so. The dvds i have make for great viewing, but they are not exactly great for accurate tech data etc. I seriosuly doubt that their "Battles" are egit as you see some cars running semis and others runnign std rubber. Then there is the whole NSX keepign up with the truly exotic cars and huge discrepancies in times between one dvd to the next...

So in line with those inconsistancies, didnt that drift fella do a 53 or 52 seconds lap ih his JGTC NSX (from memory it was last seasons NSX and that team had its ass handed to it all season but the Toyota and Nissans so want even the quickest of the JGTC cars) ..yet was several seconds quicker then the Mines car.

So statements liek its quicer then a JGTC car, or quicker then an F1 Jordan are to make a poitn that the car is quick, not a statement of fact

[Kaido_RR]

Roy,

i belived it was the NSX-R that keeped up with the ture exotic cars..

around tsuabia (Sp)

Z-Tune: 59second

Mines R34 GTR: 58seconds

[sav man]

BMI have been known for rigging races for JDM cars to win. On one of the latest DVD's Z-tune come from 4th to win on the last corner.

Don't get me wrong, I think BMI is a good watch, I just take the battle reults with a grain of salt.

Edited March 2, 2006 by sav man

[Kaido_RR]

BMI have been known for rigging races for JDM cars to win. On one of the latest DVD's Z-tune come from 4th to win on the last corner.

seeing how the Z-tune holds BM, Top Rank Production car at tsubkia (sp), but saying that its more the driver than anything..

na v's turbo battle. the na fd which had 400hp was lapping times very similar to the mines r34 gtr because the drifto king himself was driving the fd

[Duncan]

some odd arguments about times in here.

any video is bulls1t unless they have real drivers with real reasons to win. not just paid to make entertainment.

and as for a drifter being quick around a track :talktohand: he never won a jgtc did he?

If you are serious about times you can only look at those proper timed workshop laps they do, or a proper race

[lingeringsoul]

LOL, I always thought the results from these battles were a bit dodgy, guess I'm not the only person who thinks so. I still enjoy the battle royale most, HKS vs MINES vs MCR, come on GTR tuners, more MORE MORE!!!!!!

[Maxx]

drift king is not that bad, i rember he is some sort of track record holder, he is just beening not consistence enough to win JGTC

never ever trust the result of BM, can't u see the 60+ yrs old man always win...?

Edited March 2, 2006 by Maxx

[Roy]

' date='2 Mar 2006, 06:18 PM' post='1991087']

Roy,

i belived it was the NSX-R that keeped up with the ture exotic cars..

NSXR, sorry, R or not, it is lucky to have anywhere near the power of the GT3, it weighs more then the GT3...yet the NSX beats it, plus every other Euro exotic. There is one particular DVD i have where you can see on the pics on the grid its on semis....none of the Euros are on Semis. That combined with the nutter that usually drives the NSX just parks it up th einside then hogs the line...its a piss take. Great viewing but no indication of the real pace of the car.

As for the Tsuchiya or whatever his name is..i understand he did win the Jap GrpA series...and if he is the same guy that drove for Toyota at Le Mans then he came in the places in the GT-One Toyota...though i dont know how common a surname it is...so he can obviously drive....

But that doesnt ake away from the fact that their batles are for the viewers entertainment. It seems the Tsukuba (spelling?) shootouts are a much more credible measure of the pace of the tuned cars,well thats my 2cents anyway

[Tosh]

The comment about the Mines car being faster than the JGTC cars was ONLY in reference to acceleration and made by 2 JGTC GT500 Drivers.

I'm happy to accept this statement based on the fact that the Mines car produces 600ps & 60kg-m (as taken from GTR Magazine) and the GT500 cars are regulated to 500hp. Also factoring in the extreme engine response of the Mines GTR makes it 1 VERY VERY quick car (without the need for mega hp)

My 100 Yen

[Roy]

The comment about the Mines car being faster than the JGTC cars was ONLY in reference to acceleration and made by 2 JGTC GT500 Drivers.

I'm happy to accept this statement based on the fact that the Mines car produces 600ps & 60kg-m (as taken from GTR Magazine) and the GT500 cars are regulated to 500hp. Also factoring in the extreme engine response of the Mines GTR makes it 1 VERY VERY quick car (without the need for mega hp)

My 100 Yen

Could be right, but i would be surprised though.

The Japs dont run under the FIA regs for GT cars so i dont really know the restrictor sizes, weights etc of the car. But i would be surprised if the 2.6L Mines car had more torque then the 3.5L VQ GTR that is also turbocharged, the JGTC GTR would weigh less etc etc...But i suppose it could spring a surprise?!?!?!

[Duncan]

Restrictor is for 500hp so it is about 50cm. And the biggest difference is in weight, the JGTC cars will be hundreds of kg lighter.

[Tosh]

Yeh I guess it comes down to the fact that everyone draws they're own conclusions from the info available but I wouldn't be surprised if the Mine's GTR did out accelerate a JGTC Vehicle.

Just my 100 Yen