Who Should Pay?

[AtomicBomberMan]

hi, all. if you've read some of my previous threads, some of you may already know that i have recently purchased an R32 Vspec GTR from a broker. the car is a 1993 model, with an auction grade of 4(apparently very good). i was told this information. and was also told it was in immaculate condition. this was all before i saw the auction sheet. i looked at a picture and it looked very tidy. so i had them bid for it. I won. It was a very worrying month and a half and yesterday i finally saw the car in the flesh. in general, the car seemed to be in perfect working order. however, there are some, to some people they may think petty, but because i paid such a high price for this car, things which just.... just.... piss me off! i'm a pretty picky bastard. every nook and cranny has to be perfect! i know it is a 10 year old car. but there are some things like, a little bit of rust on the bootlid. the footrest is missing. the dash around the vents is starting to peel. the rear interior trims have bubbled and peeled, the steering wheel is starting to peel. i know that most of these are cosmetic, and like i said im not expecting a perfect car. but things like rust missing parts (footrest) who should pay for these things? is it my problem? i havent fully paid for this car yet. but i have paid for the majority of it. should i ask for these things to be fixed before i pay the rest? these little faults are small. but the golden rule in life is that "if it has a set of tits or a set of wheels, its going to be expensive give you trouble!" these little faults cost money. what should i do!?

[Guest ylwgtr]

id say its your problem.......how much was the car??

[predator]

Yeah, "buyer beware" seems to be the caper in this sitation...that is one of the risks you take when you buy sight unseen. Don't stress too much.. while it may cost you $1000? or so to get all that stuff fixed or replaced is that too much ontop of your overall investment. There are plenty of replacement parts around.

[gtrken]

I'm sure your broker would have said that all care no responsibility.

He is only a middleman doing it for a small profit.

If you were at all unsure about the risks involved with the auction process ( usually not visually inspected , can't drive it , most times no interior shots , different grades at different auctions etc ) then maybe you should have bought from an Australian dealer where you can see it first and drive it.

Sounds like you want your cake and eat it , cheap auction price but someone to be liable when it doesn't meet your expectation.

If the clutch isn't stuffed and the driveshaft boots aren't split , then consider yourself lucky.......

Cheers

( been there done that )

Ken

[Dragon18]

yea like the guys said it is your problem but if the broker failed to tell you all this detail then i believe he should pay for it. i dont believe in the excuse i didnt know. Because you are paying him that 1000 dollars he should know thats his job

when i bought my car my importer gave me about 10 to 12 pic of it

the front bar had a little discolouration on it

it was missing the kick panel where the ecu was

and also missing boot carpet and sunviosrs due to roll cage

however i got this car really cheap so i took the chance

but like i said the importer should tell you every thing

you cant see everything in the pic?

my car is comming soon i hope i dont have major disapointment

when i see it compared to the pics =)

[AtomicBomberMan]

i wasnt told about the rust on my bootlid. i just called my broker, there seems to be some sort of denial in his voice. if i point it out to him, who should pay then? also, what can you tell me about my car from the vin plate?

[BATMBL]

you can tell from the vin plate when the car was built exactly.

about the 'who should pay', well it'll have to be you in the end. you have to remember, you're not buying off a dealer, where you can tell him/her, oh i want to buy it, but can you fix this thing etc, you're really buying the car off the auctioneers.

the guy you pay to (middleman), he simply is doing you a 'service' to get your car from japan to sydney, and a few other little things.

its really up to you to inspect the vehicle by asking for photos to be sent to you etc in the end, its a bit of a gamble, since you're buying something you havent seen properly, so i doubt the middleman is going to pay for those cosmetic things'.

cheers :burnout:

[AtomicBomberMan]

but you really cant tell much from pictures. the pictures looked great. but... in the flesh... theres work to be done. is a car registerable with rust?

[Merli]

Are you going to post this on every single forums until you find a group of people who agree with you?

The broker isn't liable. It's not his fault that the footrest is missing and the interior is worn out... He or his contact in Japan should have spotted the rust, but they didn't.

Bummer. That's the risk you take when importing your own car. If you don't want to take the risk of a little bit of rust, pay and extra $15,000 and buy from an Australian dealership instead.

[T0nyGTSt]

You should have a got an inspection sheet before you agreed to buy the car.

Even then you assume the people who ship the car over leave it alone. Stuff stolen from the car on the ship/dock is common.

Just fix the stuff that is broken. You did save a lot of money over the cost of a similar car from a local dealer.

T.

[ix9]

I agree with the rest of the people here. your bad luck, sorry dood.

those things are minor really...

[Silver-Arrowz]

I never brought a car through a broker, and never will because like you I'm also a really picky b@stard. I perfer the idea that I get to see before I buy, and get to drive it cause the broker's agents can't tell you that either. Sorry to hear but just to encourage your thoughts, it's very rare to get a V-spec!

[AtomicBomberMan]

what were the things wrong with your skylines and how did you go about fixing them? eg dash and interior bits? results? names of places who supply second hand bits?

[crooser]

which broker did you use?

I once saw a few cars come straight from the docks, they were in an awfull state , but once detailed/tidied up etc they look like new.

If the mechanicals turn out ok, I'd say you did ok out of it all.

[Silver-Arrowz]

My car had a faulty AFM which caused 2 busted pistons and a turbo. Costed nothing but it's the time waiting that kills.

[Duncan]

Ppl like you crack me up.

Why do you think ppl pay $10,000 more to buy from a dealer in Australia. Take the saving you made on the car and fix the problems.

And next time, don't gamble if you're not willing to accept the loss.

[AtomicBomberMan]

ppl like you crack me up too, jumping to conclusions. yes, im having a bitch..... but no one said i wasnt going to accept the consequences. i am just asking for opinions, dont know whether you've figured it out yet or not dunc but it IS an discussion forum. I dont know everything like you do mate, thats why i am asking everyone else. Maybe they have been in the same situation i am in? Maybe the broker paid for it all? Now..... lets say to get everything fixed did amount to $10000.... you paid the bill.... 2 months later find out that everybody else who had similar problems, their broker wore all the costs......... how would YOU feel then? thats why i'm ASKING now.

[T0nyGTSt]

There's not a broker on the planet that would do that.

T.

[AtomicBomberMan]

tlai909 that was just an "Let's say..." scenario. i know now that having the broker pay for anything is highly unlikely. but thats what i was trying to find out. what they will and will not. thanks to all those that "discussed" with me....

[Guest DJW]

unfortunately id have to say ud need to cop it on the chin.

Its the risk involved in importing!! if your worried so much about the quality of the car, would have been best you buy locally.

I imported car 3mths ago, it was ex street drag GTR in japan, was a risk importing, but knew information about it, only fix required was replacing gearbox (which i took on chin)

otherwise, she's FANTASTIC, other day on dyno, produced 361kw@wheels

Importing cars that you've never viewed in real-life is a risk, but is alot cheaper, money u save pays for minor fix's.

My car was imported through UPI, that business is professionally run and their service best ive ever used.

Id recommend them

Hope all gets sorted with your car AtomicBomberMan