bl#$dy EPA notice!!

[Sideways]

Well I just got a dam epa notice in the mail too!!!

Had the car since August and already got one last year....

for that one I ony had to take the car to an Exhaust place to

have it tested for noise and mail in the certificate (tested at 85db

This time it's got to go to Mcload for testing to see it it complies with the "ACT" !!

Can anyone guess where I got pinned ?

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in bloody Clayton !! (Buckland street)

it's not like I can avoid the area - I have work suppliers in the

area not to mention friends that live in the area!

I remember the time too - the cops already had someone else

pulled over as I drove past them so couldn't stop me.... so they

just took the rego and epa'd me in the mail.....

I also found out that the last owner of my car got an epa notice

on the car the day he sold it to Carizma - That epa notice was

only lifted because the car was sold...

So now it's had 3 notices in the last year

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wowsers, bad luck dude...

thank god I don't live in Victoria.

[predator]

ummm..something radical here - you considered a new exhaust?

[SKY031]

Originally posted by predator666

ummm..something radical here - you considered a new exhaust?

If it tested at 85, and you haven't done anything to it since, then it shouldn't be any louder than most of the cars on the street?

This totally sux ass...... I mean, every day I see cars that have plumes of black smoke emitting from them, and I wonder why they don't get reported.

Maybe if we take it upon ourselves to start reporting every car we see that is excessively smoking, or has obvious exhaust leaks, then the EPA will be flooded with GENUINE problems and won't have time to bother with people who actually look after their cars

[SKY031]

um ... is it just me, or is something strange going on.... I don't mean to hijack the thread, but from the outside, it says there are 3 replies and zero views....... WHAT THE????????

[MzDfectd]

i feel ya dude

ive had 3 epas as well

next one i get im gonna lose it!!

[Guest INASNT]

read my thread i got the same thing!

I wrote the epa a nice letter (tellin em to get farked) since i got the exhaust passed when i got my canary cleared in the same week as the notice was issued!

Mine said to go to mcloud! *** that thats like 2 hrs away, u can still get it tested my exhaust shop that they list on the back and send it in!

[R31Heaven]

You will have to carry a Db meter in your car soon so when they pull you up and say your cars to loud, pull it out and say stick this up your ass and show them what it reads:p

[Sideways]

It turns out that the cop didn't pin me for noise - he wants the car checked to see if it

complies with "the act"

If it was noise then I could take it to one of the listed Exhaust shops for testing

- but this cops is saying (from me driving past him at 50km/h) that my car has some

other problem than niose??? I guess blow off valves (of which I only have the

std ones) or polution gear or something like that.... I would have thought that he

would need to pull me over to see something like that... but I guess not... he must

have x-ray vision or something

Originally posted by INASNT

read my thread i got the same thing!

I wrote the epa a nice letter (tellin em to get farked) since i got the exhaust passed when i got my canary cleared in the same week as the notice was issued!

Mine said to go to mcloud! *** that thats like 2 hrs away, u can still get it tested my exhaust shop that they list on the back and send it in!

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by Sideways

It turns out that the cop didn't pin me for noise - he wants the car checked to see if it

complies with "the act"

If it was noise then I could take it to one of the listed Exhaust shops for testing

- but this cops is saying (from me driving past him at 50km/h) that my car has some

other problem than niose???  I guess blow off valves (of which I only have the  

std ones) or polution gear or something like that....  I would have thought that he  

would need to pull me over to see something like that... but I guess not... he must  

have  x-ray vision or something

dont worry about the cops, they just report u to the epa, after that the cop have nothing to do with it!

Ring 1 of the exhaust places on the back of the sheet and ask them if they will give u a certificate so u can fax it to the epa! And as for mccloud, tell the epa to get ***ed coz there is another testing station in morrabin u can go to instead of mccloud

[Sideways]

Originally posted by INASNT

as for mccloud, tell the epa to get ***ed coz there is another testing station in morrabin u can go to instead of mccloud

I live in East Bentleigh... so Moorabbin would be heaps closer...

I will ring them again tomorrow and see what they have to say...

By the way I never said my exhaust was still 85db.. just that it tested at 85 db last time

It's really about 91db - just over by a bee's you know what...

bugger too as it's a 100mm trust system and Jasma muffler with removable siliencer, all held together with V-bands - the last thing I want to do is butcher it, so I would like to just make up a new siliencer insert that brings it down another 2db to around 89db....

How do you think the epa go with mufflers with siliencer tips ??

Are they legal (as long as it's under 90 db with the siliencer fitted) ?? (the exhaust shop test places didn't have a problem with it last time.... but what about epa themselves...)

If not then I do have other option, I had some extra V-Band flanges made up (as the Japanise sizes are not available in Aus), so I could someday refit the original hotdog in place of the Cat (for track days only of course ) so I might just have to use one of those flanges and buy a new quiter muffler and fit that in place of the Jasma...

[Guest INASNT]

sideways

i am still waiting for a replyfrom the epa regarding the letter i wrote!

How long ago did u do the 85 db test? I used a db tester at work and tested mine and its about 91db when warm.

[SKY031]

Originally posted by Sideways

It turns out that the cop didn't pin me for noise - he wants the car checked to see if it

complies with "the act"

If it was noise then I could take it to one of the listed Exhaust shops for testing

- but this cops is saying (from me driving past him at 50km/h) that my car has some

other problem than niose???   I guess blow off valves (of which I only have the  

std ones)    

BOVs are actually illegal if they vent to the atmosphere, so if your car goes 'pshhhh' then the cop doesn't need to see under the bonnet to know that you have something under there that you shouldn't have.

[predator]

I think silencers are illegal too as they are an "artificial restricter" or something like that.. it's all farked..

I mean what about trucks, motorbikes and everything else that make all that noise and pollution? and are that small amount of skylines (compared to everything else) really going to be putting out massive amounts of pollution compared to say a 90's commodore?? Its just an excuse to make things difficult, thats all it is.

Maybe if we take it upon ourselves to start reporting every car we see that is excessively smoking, or has obvious exhaust leaks, then the EPA will be flooded with GENUINE problems and won't have time to bother with people who actually look after their cars

you can actually do that, there is a report hotline... and a notice will be sent to the owner, then again that might make us as bad as everybody else who dobs skyline owners in. It would definitely flood the system if we could put in 5 a day each I'd love doing it to many many commondore drivers..hehe

I think they changed the law a while back to allow anybody to make a report, now its all fugged..

[predator]

all boosted skylines go "pshhhh" even with the standard plumb-back.. 'cause cops are dumb asses they don't actually know enough to tell the difference.

Next excessive "revving" will be banned.. eg, you can't go above 4,000rpm on the road... it wouldn't surprise me what they attempt to bring in.

[Guest INASNT]

whats the hotline for the epa??

i am gonna ring up and report the cop tha got me's off duty car!!

[predator]

here's the website: http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/

oh...its online!!!!! tooo goooodd!

http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/Reporting/smokyvehicle.asp

Tthats just for smoky vehicles though. I think the general one is:

(03) 9695 2777 (24 hours)

Have fun guys.. :bahaha:

[predator]

If you are annoyed by a particular noisy vehicle in your street, note the registration number and details of the vehicle (make, colour etc.) and ask your nearest police station (traffic operations group) to keep a lookout for the vehicle. If the police consider your complaint is justified, it will report the vehicle to EPA, and the owner will have to present the vehicle to an approved tester.

hmmm... maybe not so easy.. i'd say though the cops don't do any form of checking themselves, just pass it straight on - maybe get another station to do it :evil:

[SKY031]

Originally posted by predator666

here's the website: http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/

oh...its online!!!!! tooo goooodd!

http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/Reporting/smokyvehicle.asp

Tthats just for smoky vehicles though. I think the general one is:

(03) 9695 2777 (24 hours)

Have fun guys.. :bahaha:

EXCELLENT!

I just went and registered.... once they have confirmed my details, they're going to be run off their feet with legitimate 'smoky car' reports!!

Thank you for registering to become a Smoky Vehicle Reporter.  

Your user name is ***********.  

An EPA staff member will contact you within the next few days to confirm your registration. After that time you will be able to access the system by logging in with your user name and password.  

If you have any queries in the meantime, please contact the Operations Systems Unit by email ([email protected]) or on 03 9695 2678.  

[Sideways]

Originally posted by predator666

I think silencers are illegal too as they are an "artificial restricter" or something like that.. it's all farked..  

Yep - I just rang them, they class a siliencer as a "temporary defete device" and they are illegal

You can have them as long as they are welded in, and not just spot welded in either, they muist be welded all the way around to be legal...

So looks like i'll be needing a new muffler.....