Computer Jargon

[TALBO]

Thx but Im already running the rc here, and will be buying it for the sake of tax writeoff (that and I try to avoid pirated software these days). $165 for Home Premium which is all I need.

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That's fair enough, I only grabbed the copy to test PT LE 8 with and so far unsuccessful... so I probably won't be purchasing it because it still runs better on XP than even Vista or 7 RC 32 bit

[Normsta]

Thx but Im already running the rc here, and will be buying it for the sake of tax writeoff (that and I try to avoid pirated software these days). $165 for Home Premium which is all I need.

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Is that the retail price for the OEM or upgrade in Australia?

[Dohmar]

Is that the retail price for the OEM or upgrade in Australia?

OEM price for Vista Home Premium with free Win7 upgrade - you need to be an authorized MS system builder to get it at that price of course

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[Normsta]

OEM price for Vista Home Premium with free Win7 upgrade - you need to be an authorized MS system builder to get it at that price of course

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Any idea on what the normal OEM price is gonna be?

[Dohmar]

Any idea on what the normal OEM price is gonna be?

Around the same price, maybe an extra $20

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[Madaz]

yes im a geek

but i get windows 7 free (legit too)

>>Windows 7 Launch Party<<

[CRoNic...]

Okay, is this a good idea?

To have 1 SSD drive purely as the OS drive with the programs and stuff... and then 2 1TB drives (normal HDDs) in Raid 1 format for storage, etc.

Can you raid 2 drives without making the SSD a part of the cluster?

I've never attempted this way before.

[Jay019]

Has windows actually improved in any way since XP?

I did an install of XP on virtualbox today and it loads up drivers for hardware thats not even on my system. I really cant understand why its loading SCSI drivers when I dont even have a SCSI port, seriously. lol. So glad i only have to use it every now and then to see what a website looks like on a shit browser.

[CRoNic...]

Maybe you enabled SCSI in the virtual box or something? Maybe SCSI emulation or something?

[Madaz]

Jay windows Vista is a vast improvement over XP and Windows 7 is again an improvement over Vista

[TALBO]

^ depending on what one uses their PC for although 7 does indeed shit on Vista.... but that wouldn't be hard!

[Jay019]

Maybe you enabled SCSI in the virtual box or something? Maybe SCSI emulation or something?

Not at all. It was also loading a heap of other drivers that I didnt have hardware that matched.

Think i'll just stick to Linux and MacOS.

[Dohmar]

Not at all. It was also loading a heap of other drivers that I didnt have hardware that matched.

Think i'll just stick to Linux and MacOS.

Depends if you're using KVM/Qemu, VM Ware or Xen

And Steve, I cannot believe you'd rate vista over XP. Vista is a steaming pile of amphibian poo - windows 7 however is very very nice.

Cronic - You can run a single ssd and a raid 1 mirror, provided you have two separate chipsets. If you're unlucky to only have an intel ICH, then once you set raid up in the bios, everything has to be raided, and be installed with the specific raid driver. Onboard raid is pretty shit in either case - best bet is to find a cheap hardware raid card that does 0, 1 and 0+1 and use that for the 2x 1tb drives and then run the SSD natively off the ICH (or whatever the onboard chipset is) running in Sata mode.

Beware intel raid - if your bios resets and 'forgets' that there is a raid array, it will default to native SATA - which means it'll boot off the first drive of a mirror and then install/run off the standard sata driver - there is no way to re-enable the raid (unless you wish to rebuild the mirror from the 2nd hdd - in which case you'd have to make sure that the data that you've been writing to C: while in standard sata mode, is actually backed up and then copied across again once your mirror/array is setup again).

None of the above applies to striped arrays however - if the bios 'forgets' then you'll simply lose your data

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[Jay019]

Depends if you're using KVM/Qemu, VM Ware or Xen

which one of those is virtualbox by sun microsystems?

[Dohmar]

which one of those is virtualbox by sun microsystems?

haha nice expensive kit that. and here I was thinking you were using home grown hardware

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[Madaz]

no blue screens in vista for me = better cant be bothered listing any other benefits

[Jay019]

haha nice expensive kit that. and here I was thinking you were using home grown hardware

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ok, sorry im pretty stupid and not understanding.

im using virtualbox on my mac (and on my linux laptop when away from the desk) as virtualbox costs nothing to install and that way i can run windows in a window so it wont bring my whole computer down when it inevitably dies in the ass.

[Dohmar]

ok, sorry im pretty stupid and not understanding.

im using virtualbox on my mac (and on my linux laptop when away from the desk) as virtualbox costs nothing to install and that way i can run windows in a window so it wont bring my whole computer down when it inevitably dies in the ass.

oic my bad. I assumed you were running a vm host on a solaris box. we get a few of those at work, but I dont play with them myself. I mainly virtualize with the linux host based kvm/qemu extension (xen is old) using RHEL (im an RHCE) but other guys in my dept use vmware, and another bloke takes care of the sun stuff. hadnt heard of virtualbox before specifically, i assumed that it was the name of the sun native VMware client

Never got into macs myself. Some people drool over the design but I just dont dig it. They were respectable from my POV when they had native RISC cpu's but when they switched to intel I lost interest. I'd rather use BeOS/Haiku anyhow.

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[Jay019]

i never thought i would ever use a mac, but then i got into photography and wanted a large screen computer with balls. didnt want to pay a windows tax and while linux and gimp is good, mac and photoshop are better. having said that though, i never got around to buying photoshop and still use gimp but on a 24" imac. lol. works well for me though, much better than trying to edit pics on a 14" laptop that slows to a crawl once you open about 7 images. haha.

its been a while since ive had a proper play with any new OS but while there are some things i think could be done better on a mac overall i dont mind it at all. works well and hasnt failed on me once. and having a unix base is always cool as i still find myself using the terminal and doing things with shell scripts via automator. so yeah, i'm pretty happy with it.

Edited September 30, 2009 by Jay019

[Dohmar]

i never thought i would ever use a mac, but then i got into photography and wanted a large screen computer with balls. didnt want to pay a windows tax and while linux and gimp is good, mac and photoshop are better. having said that though, i never got around to buying photoshop and still use gimp but on a 24" imac. lol. works well for me though, much better than trying to edit pics on a 14" laptop that slows to a crawl once you open about 7 images. haha.

its been a while since ive had a proper play with any new OS but while there are some things i think could be done better on a mac overall i dont mind it at all. works well and hasnt failed on me once. and having a unix base is always cool as i still find myself using the terminal and doing things with shell scripts via automator. so yeah, i'm pretty happy with it.

i buy all my hardware on the component level and assemble myself - never had to pay a windows tax as ive always had access to VLK licences thru my employer

currently im running an i920 system with 12 gigs of ram and windows 7 64 bit - i can tell you, photoshop runs really really fast, even when im editing 5 gig psd's - only takes a max of 90% ram and doesnt even use the swap file... i love it

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