Circuit Racing - 13yo

[nice 28]

lol......by the time i'm on my l's i want a r33 or 34 gtt. so i'm saving now for it.

[Kaz200]

get a gazelle!! hehe

small, light and RWD. Excellent starting point for what you want to do.

They actually have motorsports training in albury/wodonga but I think you need to finish high school first.

Geez saving.. the only thing I did when I was 13 was spend..

[Duncan]

now we are talking

I was running a $50 200b with a locked diff for sick dorifto (well 1st gear at least) it was brilliant

Neil bought a big $$$$ n12 pulsar auto about $300 from memory. It was a fair bit quicker than the datto being fwd and auto but it was less fun.

They don't need to be registered for khana, just "safe". But of course if its not registered you have to work out how to get it to the event. But I guess you couldn't drive it there anyway, right?

[nice 28]

You know what i was thinking, maybe i should get one of those "unregisterable" imports, but if i'm correct, you need a level 3 cams license to import one.

There was a green gazelle for sale with white rims somewhere.

here we go just found it

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=109105

170kw atw looks alrite for 6.5k

how about an s13. they're fairly cheap.

i could get an unregistered car, but that's going to be a hassle to get it there. if there was a registered one i could get my parents to drive it there and back, but otherwise i don't know.

if i knew where albury/wodonga was i could consider it but if i need to finish high school i think i might give it a miss.

ill search the net later for motorsport training for juniors.

thanx for the input guys.

[Snowman]

I don't know if you have seen any of the SAU motokhana video's?

If not - watch this one.

http://sau.tharaka.net/ScotsmanWangBusta1.wmv

If you can do a motokhana as good as that I can tell you there isn't much you won't be able to do in a car. Karting is a great place for teaching you race track lines and how to "race" but motokhana's are a great place to teach you how to steer good.

[nice 28]

Snowman i wish i could drive like that but i'm really ineperienced with driving because i'm only 13.

I want to learn the basics of driving first like steering, throttle control etc. So i think that motorkhanas would be a good place to start.

And where can i get more of them motorkhana vids.

[Snowman]

http://sau.tharaka.net/ for more vids.

I wasn't suggesting you could drive that well just now but I was just saying that motokhana's are a good place to start. Doing them well takes some driving.

[tedshred]

The advice to go karting is by far, the best.

The "scale" speeds you will do in a proper race Kart ,will normally, far exceed the equivalent speeds you will reach in a car (possibly, unless you're in something highly modified).

Your reflexes, vehicle handling, vehicle setup and racecraft skills will be developed rapidly (if you're interested) with the regularity and level of competition. There are a greater of number of tracks within a 100km radius of Melbourne with regular meetings for Karts.

To be at the top in Karting, even in Australia much less, globally, your skills will be so honed that motorkhanas and sprint days will be a cakewalk!

You will gain -more rapidly- the valuable experience of driving a vehicle at or beyond it's limits.

I believe that it can still a very cheap sport particularly when it comes to wheel to wheel racing (as opposed to sprints and motorkhanas) I'd go so far as to say that it is STILL the cheapest wheel to wheel racing you can do. Unless you prefer chequebook racing!

At your age you may well start with a "J" motor in karting as your fastest option until you are older. I am not sure what age you are eligible for "S", Rotax & open motors but it might be 16yrs.

Silhouette Karts in Somerton have proper "J" karts for hire. Talk to Frank or Glenn Riddell (in Karts for years) about perhaps arranging a drive, to give you a taste of the type of machine you might have. I am sure you wil find them faster than your ability at this early stage, but you will be able to master them.

In my experience (and I raced Karts) The thing about "slow" karts (I mean real Karts not fun Karts) is that there is more to learn in driving a slow vehicle -quickly than a fast vehicle -fast. (I am sure that there are plenty out there who would differ on this!)

The list of drivers who have come out of racing Karts is well known and lengthy;

Russel Ingall, Craig Lowndes,Matt Coleman,John Fawkner, Marcus Ambrose,Cameron McConville,Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost, Nigel Mansell, etc. etc.

They're top professional drivers because of their experience in Karts (amongst other things).

Karts are definately the place to start.

[nice 28]

Snowman: thanks for the vids

tedshred: I'm actually going to go to silhouette go-karts this weekend with my bro-in-law. I went there a couple of times and had a shot with one of the 's' motors but this time i'm going to try a rotax because thats what my bro-in-law has now. Do you go to shilhouette karts often? If you do i might see you there then.

Guys i still don't know whether to start out in karts or in khana's?

I'm stumped!

[tedshred]

Snowman: thanks for the vids

tedshred: I'm actually going to go to silhouette go-karts this weekend with my bro-in-law. I went there a couple of times and had a shot with one of the 's' motors but this time i'm going to try a rotax because thats what my bro-in-law has now. Do you go to shilhouette karts often? If you do i might see you there then.

Guys i still don't know whether to start out in karts or in khana's?

I'm stumped!

Nope I have only been 2 or 3 times, but the Karts there are the closest to proper Karts you can get without owning one (or knowing someone else who has one). I know Frank and Glenn (and Steve) from "the old days" and I knew them as being very methodical and fastidious. Having driven there, I can vouch for the fact that the Karts (at least the ones I drove) were well set up maintained.

Get into some competition, I don't believe that you will be disappointed!

[nice 28]

Ok so i'm guessing that the pros of each one are something like this

Karts: Faster speeds, learn racing lines etc.

Khana's: Learn when to turn etc in real car.

Anymore ideas????

[nice 28]

I went go-karting yesterday at silhouette in somerton.

And no not in a hire kart, in a rotax 125.

It was good except i crashed one the 3rd lap (first out in the kart between mates and myself) at the 2nd right hander from the start line (or the first corner out of the pits). I apparently spun out and had a 360 degree turn in the air. I ended up hitting the tyre barrier and the kart was on top of a tyre (wrecked their nice tyre barrier...lol). I got off and took it off the tyre with a little help and drove it back to the pits. I'm a little battered and bruised on my ribs but i'm alrite for now.

Then after i got off the kart i realized that my foot was on the acceleraor cable thus causing me to keep accelarating and spin.

Later on my bro-in-law and his mate were having a race and one of them tapped the other lightly and they both spun out and caused the rear axle to bend.

So they repaired it and i was the test dummy (first one out after repairs) and was suprised to see that the brake cable wasn't tightened and causing me to haul up really, really slowly.

Anyway i think after that experience i might skip karting, and start out in khana's (if i can save up a bit more).

I also looked on the cams website and figured out that i can get a L2S when i'm 14.

I was looking on ebay and there was a r32 gts4 or gtst for 4k but only as an unreigsterable race import.

What do you guys reckon??

All ideas and feedback are much appreciated.

nice 28

[justin911]

karting is bloody scary if u ask me

i dont feel safe being so low to the ground and not realy enclosed.. feels like its gonna roll over or im gonna fall out or something

[nice 28]

lol

i got the sh!ts first time out.

it freaks me out too. i moved over so this guy could overtake me on the outside and there was like half a karts space on the inside and thats were he flew past.

and last time my mates front wheel got stuck between this guys radiator and engine.

looked freaky as.

[tedshred]

....... i crashed one the 3rd lap........(or the first corner out of the pits).........spun out and had a 360 degree turn in the air. I ended up hitting the tyre barrier............kart was on top of a tyre......(wrecked their nice tyre barrier...lol)..........Anyway i think after that experience i might skip karting, and start out in khana's (if i can save up a bit more)............All ideas and feedback are much appreciated.

nice 28

Fair enough!

Best you have a real car.

There's clearly nothing to learn from Karting!!!

[nice 28]

lol

i've been looking on ebay and theres a r32 gts4 for 4.3k or sumthing but its an unregisterable import.

this would be a killer to sell once i'm good enough to upgrade

but if i was to get it (most likely not) can you get rally rego on them so you can drive them to the track???

Edited May 21, 2006 by nice 28

[BazaR33]

I'd still recomend karting, in J's there'd be less damage happening because they r much slower than rotax's. I raced J's for a couple of years n had the best fun racing, especially when it got really close, adrenalin was pumping, it was unreal. If i had the time i'd still be doing it now! I raced on a shoe string budget, but i was still competing with the guys that were spending up to $30k/year. I still thinl its the cheapest and best way to get into racing!!

Edited March 29, 2006 by BazaR33

[nice 28]

Well,

to actually do circuit racing you need a NC cams license which you have to be 16 to get. No junior licenses are available.

damn