Are Gtrs Worthwhile?

[wrxhoon]

Stock GTRs aren't very fast by today's standards...

206kw just isn't much power these days, not when a stock 6 cyl falcon makes 190kw and even a Hyundai Grandeur can muster up 194kw. A 10-15kw advantage isn't going to feel like a huge improvement, even considering the weight difference

You are correct to say 206 kw is not much power but who said they have 206 kw in stock form ?

If you think you can keep up with a GTR in your 190kw Falcon ( even the 260kw 5.4 V8, or 4.0ltXR6 turbo) or 194kw Grandeur you are totaly mistaken . Obviously you have never driven a GTR, but dont take my word for it, just go to WID on any wednesday night and you will see .

[IOWNU]

You are correct to say 206 kw is not much power but who said they have 206 kw in stock form ?

If you think you can keep up with a GTR in your 190kw Falcon ( even the 260kw 5.4 V8, or 4.0ltXR6 turbo) or 194kw Grandeur you are totaly mistaken . Obviously you have never driven a GTR, but dont take my word for it, just go to WID on any wednesday night and you will see .

lol so true.

It's just not power that determines which car is quicker.....there are soooo many factors.

[Ruffels]

this is very interesting to me as i have just 'downgraded' haha

from an R33 gts-t, to an R32 gts-4

i wasnt legally allowed to drive the r33 gts-t due to power restirctions in my state, however i have found that the gts-4 is still pretty zippy... it doesnt put me in my seat like my r33 used to... but handling is fantastic, i can now take corners at speeds that i would have totally spun out at in the R33 gts-t

i'll agree with shan in that the awd gear is fairly laggy, and same with the power delivery, but i spose thats what happens when you downgrade from a 2.5L to a 2L

[kralster]

4wd has no effect on corner grip whatsoever. Unless you are in the wet.

Sure when you put the throttle down in a rwd it may spin around on you but your corner speed should be exactly the same.

[Roy]

I dont agree with this, i have a 34 gtr and until last november i had an 02 sti as well and i can assure you bog stock gtr will eat the sti everywhere . It may surprise you to know that the sti may have it on the gtr in the braking by a very small margin.

Remember you only need slight mods to get the gtr to run 11 second 1/4 mile, to that in the sti you need heaps of mods

Yeh but we are talking R32 GTRs, sure as hell not comparing it to a 4-6 yr old R34 GTR. An EVO 8 or 2004 STI would be generally a quicker, and better built/condition car then most R32 GTRs getting around.

As for traction in the wet...no doubt...but your mad if you are punting your car hard on the street, then its protracted suicide to be racing in the wet...by all means, its your car, do what floats your boat. If you are goign to mod them for 300+rwkws sure they will be quick...but for christs sake its a street car...where can you serisouly even stretch oits legs in 2nd gear.

But the 4WD is a great attribute, and they are great cars...but for every 2 good examples there is a GTR ready to dump its gearbox, spin a bearing, need suspension overhaul etc. Its not a fault of the car, its the age.

Me, i would love to have the money to buya GTR and have the sufficient cash to replace the things that need replacing, but the 9 month wait and long list of thing that i need to replace with what little cash i have makes them expensive cars...

They are great cars, but there are less then great examples, just be sure the won you jockey is the former

[Turbz_13]

ill correct ya a lil bit there karl, it does make a differece if you are cornering fast with the front wheels engaging!!! as ya may feel the back start to let go but the front digs in the claws and ya in for a ride!!

ya right about the wet, u remember when i was fishing down that raod....i am very happy that i didnt have a rear wheel drive that night as i would have lost it no doubt!!

the fact about a 190kw falcon...no way ya can compare it to a gtr, even if it has 15kw's less power, doesnt mean a thing.

its not how powerfull the car is its how it puts it to the ground and the gtr does that very well indeed!! example. r34 gtr(206kw) vs. hsv gts(300kw)(in a old wheels mag) the gtr absolutly made a mess of the gts.

i luv driving mine!! its awsome

Edited March 15, 2006 by Turbz_13

[my_gtr32]

You are correct to say 206 kw is not much power but who said they have 206 kw in stock form ?

If you think you can keep up with a GTR in your 190kw Falcon ( even the 260kw 5.4 V8, or 4.0ltXR6 turbo) or 194kw Grandeur you are totaly mistaken . Obviously you have never driven a GTR, but dont take my word for it, just go to WID on any wednesday night and you will see .

What he said.

The traction you get with any gtr when you fill-up those huge wheel arches with good rubber plus 4WD, it's no contest especially in the wet.

And since when did a R32 GTR only have 206Kw? That figure was simply what manufactures agreed to limit their cars to. Let me asure you, there's more. Do the usual mods, intake, exhaust, and you have 200 plus Kw at the wheels. Hang on, but there should only be 206kw at the flywheel? That's a big power increase for such simple mods don't you think?

With four wheel drive, a super strong driveline, except clutch, a lighter body than R33 or R34, and you have the basis for a very fast car. The R32 gtr is still faster 0 to 100klm and over the quarter mile than any other gtr released acording to every road test I've seen. Not the case around a twisty track though, R34 wins hands down.

Mine has been a daily driver for the past 2 years and I can't say it's hard to drive, its GREAT to drive. A Gts4 is a good car, but you're having a lend of yourself if you think it's in the same league as the R32 GTR!

As for a Grandeur keeping up, dream on.

[wrxhoon]

ill correct ya a lil bit there karl, it does make a differece if you are cornering fast with the front wheels engaging!!! as ya may feel the back start to let go but the front digs in the claws and ya in for a ride!!

ya right about the wet, u remember when i was fishing down that raod....i am very happy that i didnt have a rear wheel drive that night as i would have lost it no doubt!!

the fact about a 190kw falcon...no way ya can compare it to a gtr, even if it has 15kw's less power, doesnt mean a thing.

its not how powerfull the car is its how it puts it to the ground and the gtr does that very well indeed!! example. r34 gtr(206kw) vs. hsv gts(300kw)(in a old wheels mag) the gtr absolutly made a mess of the gts.

i luv driving mine!! its awsome

The R34 GTR has a lot more power than the 206kw that Nissan says it has and the 300kw commie has a few kw less than the specs say too.

Roy, you dont have to wait 9 months for parts for a GTR actualy you can have anuthing you need for them from your local Nissan dealer, they usualy are in stock and if they are not 1-2 weeks from japan .Generaly speaking Nissan parts are cheap if you compare them to Subaru .

Of course you cant compare a 15yo 32 to a 2-4 yo sti or evo for realibility. As for power 02 sti and 04 sti are exacly the same and they have nothing on the old 32 in stock form, actualy the 32 is a little quicker but the stis will outbrake it very easy, they even stop better than the R34.

If you are talking about a version 5 or version 6, 99 and 00 (old GC8 Jap spec cars) they are just as quick as the 32 R mainly because they are very light .

[marchGTR]

Stock GTRs aren't very fast by today's standards...

206kw just isn't much power these days, not when a stock 6 cyl falcon makes 190kw and even a Hyundai Grandeur can muster up 194kw. A 10-15kw advantage isn't going to feel like a huge improvement, even considering the weight difference

I used to always wonder this before I got a gtr....'they cant really be very fast with only 206kw. that was until some fella in a 300kw gts' wanted to have a little squirt against my stock 33r.. off the line smoked him, however he hadnt had enough so tried to get away from me on a roll...lets just say he was very disappointed.

206kw I dont think so..i would say closer to 240-250.

Edited March 15, 2006 by marchGTR

[savage GTR]

Stock GTRs aren't very fast by today's standards...

206kw just isn't much power these days, not when a stock 6 cyl falcon makes 190kw and even a Hyundai Grandeur can muster up 194kw. A 10-15kw advantage isn't going to feel like a huge improvement, even considering the weight difference

Firstly do you own one

secondly, look at the times these stock cars do down the quarter.

stock times for stock car 0-100 1/4 mile cost power

R32gtr 5.5sec 13.7sec 20k-35k 206kw

Falcon 7.8sec 15.6 sec 36k 190kw

falcon xr6t 6.2sec 14.3 sec 47k 245kw

commodore sv6 6.9sec 15.1 sec 40k 190kw

hyundai grandeur 7.2sec 15.1 sec 40k est 194kw

subaru wrx sti 5.8sec 13.8 sec 57k 206kw

mitsubishi evo 1X 5.6sec 13.8 sec 57k 206kw

nissan 350z track 6.4sec 14.3 sec 68k 221kw

mazda rx8 6.4sec 14.8sec 55k 171kw

not bad for a stock car mate! dont know what you mean by not fast for todays standard, also look at the cost for the other car's! the only thing coming close are the other imports

thirdly, spend a few more dollars on intercooler,exhaust,powerfc and tune to 260rwks and then

0-100 1/4mile cost power

R32gtr {or any GTR} 4.9sec 12.8sec extra 10k 350kw {or buy one with mods} 30-40k

ford fpv typhoon 5.9sec 14sec 61k 290kw

ford fpv GT-P 6.2sec 14.3sec 72k 290kw

holden GTO manaro 5.1sec 13.3sec 79k 297kw

holden coupe4 6.5sec 14.3sec 90k 270kw

spend the same on similar mods on these cars and you will reach same power figure but will still be behind the GTR and probably want have 25-60k in your back pocket

and just for good measure

porsche carrera 4.9sec 13.2sec 196k 239kw

porsche 996 911 turbo 4.5sec 12.7sec 323k 309kw

now do you still think GTR's are still slow by todays standard lol

and by the way times and figures straight out of wheels mag!

I drive mine everyday, its got 292rwk and is driveable in every way. When I got it it it was dead stock with jap chipped stock computer and made 199rwks, a wrx sti tried me and sadly was embaressed big time.

any way people have gun, {gtr} will travel {fast}