Eastern Creek Half day Drive day THURSDAY 3rd April.

[Majanal]

LOL

[Duncan]

?left foot braking is perfect for that corner, long as you take it in 3rd....its a great cure for mid-corner understeer

[carlo]

Originally posted by Majanal

...just a shame that the nembies had to run with the oldies... shit... gotta think of a better way of putting that! They could have got more of an opportunity to get out with people that have been before rather than following them. I think it helped Carlo though... and I also think that he needed it... from what I saw!!!

A better way of putting that would definitely be a good thing.

Considering that Thursday was my first time on a race track, I happen to think I did pretty well. You would know, being pretty experienced at EC yourself that the lines are not as you think they would be (turn 2 is a perfect example), and there's really only one way to get them right. Practice.

While I don't disagree it would have been good to have a more experienced driver riding shotgun to eliminate the "trial-and-error" aspect of the day, this wasn't available, so I made do on my own. Although you may not have meant for it to come out the way it did, it's pretty tactless to mention people by name in the manner you have done here though, regardless of who it is you're talking about.

It might put other new people off in future if they get the feeling that their lack of experience (and this is basically all it comes down to) is going to be talked about in such a manner.

Just a thought.

[Majanal]

Carlo... wasn't having a go at you mate... I do appoligise if I have upset you in any way. I agree that you did a good job, and you even mentioned that at the time I caught you you were having a "moment" as you put it. Again... sorry for the poor wording... I've never been one with them and it often gets me into trouble!

[Merli]

I'm sure Dan didn't mean anything by that Carlo...

But I agree with him... It would have been better to put the newer drivers into group... Perhaps Group B or C, so they could go for a ride with people who have had a bit of track time at EC, without missing out on one of their sessions. By the same token, said "experienced" people could take shotgun in other cars to point out apexes and the proper lines without losing one of their sessions also.

By placing us all in the same Group, they effectively stopped the above from happening, as people understandably didn't really want to miss out on one of their sessions. Especially with a half-day, where you only get a handful.

Might be something to mention to the organisers next time Dan?

[Duncan]

Yeah, me three. I think seperate groups is the way to go in future so that we can do more passengering, and pass on our bad habits to each other.

The downside is, at least with our own group there's almost no dcikhead factor (except fatz...j/k) you can come across idiots in the other groups.

[carlo]

Whilst I know that Dan ment no harm by his comments, it was something I was concerned about and wanted to bring up.

Grouping people up into advanced and a B group is a fantastic idea, I my self next time have no issue with going A or even B again on this track because through out the day I got the hang of it and would be keen to start working on technique.

I was most impressed by the driving skills all of you displayed on thursday, your technique was visible from both a spectators point of view and your times.

Perhaps as more and more newbies are encouraged to come along to these events we can have more expirenced drivers explain the corners, the apex and why it is so. I think that expirence would be invaluable. I would definatly be doing this when I get my own technique down pat.

Once I have my brakes fixed up I shall be at the next track day, set on those records that you keep setting.

[Silver-Arrowz]

Originally posted by Duncan

The downside is, at least with our own group there's almost no dcikhead factor (except fatz...j/k) you can come across idiots in the other groups.

Fatz isn't a d*ckhead. I think the word "lunatic" describes him better.

[Roy]

When i first ventured onto the track, i appreciated the time by myslef with no pressure, just to get a feel for the car and the track.

When i thought i was at a level not to scare a pasenger, i grabbed a F3000 driver to show me around Wakefield.

My first time at Eastern was a Motoconcepts day, and found the instruction from their driving instructor great. Again i gave myslef two sessions then grabbed the instructor before learning too many bad habits.

Im all for getting advice from others, but dont forget there are paid professional available to us for free at Motoconcepts days.

Now that my car is so different to drive due to recent mods, ill be looking to get more tuition on how to get the most out of my car.

I heard Merli talking about Andrej in the Silver R33, apparently the car was Stockish, but blindingly fast. I suppose you would expect no less from a top line GTP driver.

[drifto]

Hey Roy,

If you could pick up my hat that would be great. I'll find a way to get it off you some other time, no rush.

Can't wait for next track meeting!!!