Hi Alll

[madness]

Hi all I just bought a R32 GTR and I love it. I have driven a few cars in my time and so far I have found the GTR the most fun to drive. The way you can throw it around is unreal.

The car is stock exp for zorst and turbos which has hks 25, 30’s. I was looking at getting an ecu but there are so many to choose from I don't know what to get.

This is what I have being tossing up between so far, PFC, WOLF3D v. 4.

Has anyone hear used the wolf, I know most ppl hear are using the PFC just would kike to know what the wolf's are like. Also I live out near Airport west, can anyone recommend a good work shop out that way or any way around this side of town or along the western ring road towards Epping? Any help would be great.

By the way this is far the best forum out there for Nissans keep up the good work...

Edited March 22, 2006 by madness

[inark]

welcome along madness! and great choice too

you might be able to find some info in the technical sections on this forum in regards to the wolf system... im sure someones used it.

[Al]

Hi Madness,

I have used the Wolf for the last 3-4yrs and believe it to be an awesome ecu. There are alot of ppl/tunners that would disagree and say otherwise, but they most probably have not used the wolf b4 and couldn't use it's numerous features to tune it.

I have had my car for approx 5-6yrs an have solely gone to EAS Performance all this time, not alot of ppl can say that about their w/shop of choice .

They are located at:

11 Victory Rd

Airport West

tele:9330 2001

Speak to Vic, he will tell you a little more about the Wolf's features.

[Russman]

Another great tuner out you way who specialises in nissans is Sam at Dr Drift. He is in Brooklyn (near Altona). Very helpful knows what he is talking about.

Sam 0425818755

Enjoy the Car!

Russell

[paulr33]

vote #1 apexi powerfc

sam can tune powerfc

[SXR]

i wouldn't recommend wolf for a GTR, i'd go with Power FC

[madness]

Hi Madness,

I have used the Wolf for the last 3-4yrs and believe it to be an awesome ecu. There are alot of ppl/tunners that would disagree and say otherwise, but they most probably have not used the wolf b4 and couldn't use it's numerous features to tune it.

I have had my car for approx 5-6yrs an have solely gone to EAS Performance all this time, not alot of ppl can say that about their w/shop of choice .

They are located at:

11 Victory Rd

Airport West

tele:9330 2001

Speak to Vic, he will tell you a little more about the Wolf's features.

Thanks for that, I did ring them up spoke to Vic, He is more of a wolf specialist, he said to me that if I want to go the pfc route I should speak to Ben from race pace, all in all he was very nice to me and said to me that at the end of the day it's up to me to choose what i want. He's really passionate about what he dose which is a must.

i wouldn't recommend wolf for a GTR, i'd go with Power FC

Can you please give me some reasons as to why I shouldn't go the wolf option?

It's all fair and just to say one thing but it's also good to state reasons, I am not having a go at you I would just like to hear your opinion(s) on why.

Edited March 23, 2006 by madness

[NateR31]

sam is the man, pfc is the key, but would have to tune your GTR in rwd mode

[Al]

If they are valid reasons post them up here, as i too would like to know why Wolf is not good.

I know that, even though the Pfc is a great ecu and highly regarded, it only has 6 load point (wolf=16) and does not have an air temp sensor. So on hot days you have to change your driving style where-as the wolf will automatically retard the ignition.

Don't mis-understand me, i am a big fan of the Pfc, as it has been proven to be a stable product, but i rate the Wolf at least as high as the Pfc. The wolf is a bitch to tune, but that is not you problem, but that is why alot of tunners don't like them, as they have no idea of all it's features and how to use them.

[Al]

Thanks for that, I did ring them up spoke to Vic, He is more of a wolf specialist, he said to me that if I want to go the pfc route I should speak to Ben from race pace, all in all he was very nice to me and said to me that at the end of the day it's up to me to choose what i want. He's really passionate about what he dose which is a must.

That is exactly why i use him and listen to his advise. He is a "no bullshit" guy and if he can't do something, like tune a Pfc, he will direct you to the best in the industry. Having said that, there is no-one else i would go to for my spanner work, as he takes the time to do things properly. No reason why you can't use Vic for the spanner work and if you decide on the Pfc, to use another w/shop for tunning. I have a few mate's that do just that, and they too are very happy with Vic's workmanship.

[madness]

I like the fact that with a wolf they have a lifetime warranty and that they are a local product,

Also that they are roughly the same price as the PFC,

But one of my mates knows someone selling there PFC for $800 with hand controller.

That’s why I have asked the question.

I have been trying to way up the costs.

Now if I want to change airflow meters I will need to fork out an extra $$.

Ill just have a think about how much power do I want, because if I want big hp in the end I think it's going to be better to get a wolf for the fact that I can get away with not using afm as such and I don't need to buy a boost controller.

Like I said ill think about it and see if I can find out more about the two, i.e. same car same mods different ecu and compare the two. Value for money. Also I think two that in the end of the day it comes down to the tuner... Thanks again for all your help ppl ill keep you all posted as to what route to choose

,

[Interloper]

I like the fact that with a wolf they have a lifetime warranty and that they are a local product,

Also that they are roughly the same price as the PFC,

But one of my mates knows someone selling there PFC for $800 with hand controller.

That’s why I have asked the question.

I have been trying to way up the costs.

Now if I want to change airflow meters I will need to fork out an extra $$.

Ill just have a think about how much power do I want, because if I want big hp in the end I think it's going to be better to get a wolf for the fact that I can get away with not using afm as such and I don't need to buy a boost controller.

is a wolf a straight plug in ecu? or does it need to be wired up (which adds to cost). As one of the advantages of the PFC is that it is a straight plug in ecu with no extra work needed as far as sensors go.

And i also go to DrDrift in Brooklyn, he can remap your stock ecu which eliminates the need for aftermarket computers and the money can be spent on tuning + $ saving.

[madness]

As far as i am aware they are a straight swap over same as the pfc and also comes with a base map so you too can drive it to a tuner.

I am still weighing up the cost's at the moment.

But it seems to me ( and i could be wrong here) that a lot of tuners are using the pfc. I think thats mainly because the wolf have a lot more features and more load points.

[ctjet]

if you gonna install wolf on a skyline you hav to see the guru of the system...

Speed Technology in Ringwood.... Steve Newing

[Al]

if you gonna install wolf on a skyline you hav to see the guru of the system...

Speed Technology in Ringwood.... Steve Newing

I have heard different stories about their tunes........

[ctjet]

I have heard different stories about their tunes........

care to elaborate on these?.... saying that Steve is pretty switched on i dont know about the rest of his crew but the man is quite well creditialed and has a long and proven record in all types of racing catagories.

hey im just throwing it out there as an option for the guy, you dont want someone like Dr drift tunning your car so he can handgrenade yet another car on the dyno

[Interloper]

care to elaborate on these?....

hey im just throwing it out there as an option for the guy, you dont want someone like Dr drift tunning your car so he can handgrenade yet another car on the dyno

and could you elaborate on this?

send me a pm if you like

[adznight]

Both ECU's are good, I think you'll be happy either way. PFC is ace though as you simply remove the old ECU and Plug in the new. Very commonly used too. Lots of tuners and easy to remove if you ever need, about 5 mins work.

[Al]

Both ECU's are good, I think you'll be happy either way. PFC is ace though as you simply remove the old ECU and Plug in the new. Very commonly used too. Lots of tuners and easy to remove if you ever need, about 5 mins work.

Wolf is also a direct plug-in. If you remove the afm ( ) all you do is plug it back in and block the extra vaccum/boost line going to the ecu.

Alot more tunners know how to tune the Pfc and it is easier to find another w/shop should you decide to change. Start-up is a little quicker (sometimes) than the wolf.

Wolf has PIN security start-up, that can be enabled and disabled at will, air temp compensation, 4 extra AUX outputs, boost controll via you standard solenoide, and other things that the Pfc unfortunately lacks.

[allblitz]

Power FC all the way