Got done speeding/what to do

[R31Nismoid]

I got done last night... on my way home form the mini meet in St Kilda.

I was doing XX km/h in a 60 zone and the kind police officer... in and unmarked car/plain clothes said i was doing 100 km/h.

I disputed that and he didn't produce any evidence

ie. a speed camera/radar.

Just his word and it wasn't as if he was close behind me as it was a good 5 - 10 secs before he caught upto me and i was doing 65 by this stage.

And he was behind traffic before i saw him weave out... if the traffic wasn't going the same speed as me how can he book me?

Also he didn't issue me a ticket or anything on the spot last night.

Is there a way of getting out of this ?

There MUST be a loop hole...

Otherwise i'm gonna loose my licence for donkeys

[predator]

Shit, thats pretty rough..bad end to the night thats for sure. It was about 3am on a thursday night for godsakes!

Its really up to him as to whether he fills in the required paperwork, but from what I hear in that situation they can send you the ticket in the mail so it might be a waiting game.

Depends what the final ticket ends up stating, but if its a big one you might be best fighting it in court. If its just the one officer in the car with no gun then its his word against yours. He's a cop so its hard, but depending on the circumstances you might be able to fight it.

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah tell me about it. Not too worried...

just the $700 odd fine it will probably be... and min 6 months loss i reckon.

It was him and another copper in the car.

But there was no gun, like i said. i disputed it and he didn't back it with anything.

He had a whilry light on the roof for god's sake... not even the in car lights they have now.

He was looking for piss pots cause trouble near a local club... defiantely wasn't near me at the intersection casue i checked and then scooted off.

Must have heard the car screaming and decided to pin me.

[A31_Cefiro]

Surely the cop would have to prove it. You didn't happen to get any plates of cars that can vouch for your story? If you can prove your story then they will be hard pressed to pin that speed on you when there is no actual gun readout.

If he wasn't following you then he took a "guess" at your speed which cannot be proven.....

Apparently they are coming down on the cops for not fighting real crime. Maybe they will leave us alone and catch the real criminals....

[R31Nismoid]

There were any other cars around really.

It was 3.30am!!

and yeah. no proof of it.

he didn't show me the gun or anything.

nor did i see one.

[NismoR34]

And he was behind traffic before i saw him weave out... if the traffic wasn't going the same speed as me how can he book me?

and

There were[nt?] any other cars around really.

So were there other cars or not :confused:

Just make sure you have your story straight for the courts

[BigDatto]

If he didn't issue you with a ticket on the spot, and had no radar, then he has NO evidence. If a fine arrives in the mail I would take it to court. If the officer can't produce documentary evidence of an offence then how could it possibly stand up in court ? No magistrate would accept hearsay as evidence, the cop would just end up looking like a complete fool. The officer KNOWS this believe me. I would be very surprised if a fine is mailed to you.

I have twice rep'd myself in court re: traffic offences and twice had rulings in my favour.

don't panic.

[R31Nismoid]

Originally posted by nismoR34

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So were there other cars or not :confused:

Just make sure you have your story straight for the courts

Kinda odd that.. Soz.

There were cars about (4 of them) but they were about 300 meters back and the cop came screaming out of that pack and up behind me.

so there was traffic but none near me... if ya get what i mean ?!?!?

BigDatto...

would you be able to e-mail me some points and stuff to help my case?

[email protected]

ash

[poyz]

This sounds like something that happened to me and Ula just a little over a year ago.

Speeding along the Western Ring Road (near Macca's) They didn't produce proof. Just threatened us. Ula even got threatened with court and lossing his car (of course, it's a skyline). I just got told that my car wasn't a sports car and I shouldn't be driving so fast (haha, love that)

Anyway, they said, we'd get it in the mail a month later. Nothing happened, Ula can probably elaborate.

P.S. Ula was behind me, 'trying' catch me. (Suck it down, b¡tch)

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah... i had something like that too...

i skated out of a car wash 10 months ago... HUGE drift. cop busted me and i said there was detergent on my wheels etc.

etc.

he said i'd get a review of licence in the mail.. ain't seen it yet

But this cop seemed pretty destined to screw me. Hope he doesn't... but if he does... court should be fun

[Milk]

dont worry too much ash

they got NO EVIDENCE

they are just threathening u out!

many of my frens got pull over by speeding, but they got no prove!many= more than 45 cars got threaten but no fine even they said so on the nite!

they are just bored so mite as well pull u over for nothing at all!

what are they gonna charge u for?

whats the statment?

by driving at 100km+ in st kilda with no evidence or witnesses provided?get real! they will just embarrass themselves if thats the case coz if its braught to court they will lost a BIG TIME

[inark]

man u serious?

gees.... well technically they can book u without a radar... they use GUESSTIMICATION where they will follow u at a certain speed for a set time til it looks like theyre doing about the same speed then they generally mark it downa few ks.

BUT only trained officers can do this... i do believe that not all n00bish policemen have this training and if they werent of any reasonable rank i wouldnt worry.

[Zdenko]

yeah true

i bee dicked like that b4..

thank god the cop was half decent and let e off with 130 in an 100 zone cause i entered the freeway from the hoppers crossing exit at around 180 then practicaly locked up when i relised a cop was behind me

but they guy understood my sistuation.. i have a turbo hahaha

so he let me off with 3 points and a fine

[SKY031]

ASH!!!!!!!!!!

lol bloody hell....

we have to get you to a track so that you can have a play.

boys and their toys.

You didn't buy the beasty so that you could be stuck with no licence!

Out of all the above posts, inark is the most well informed, they don't need to have a radar to book you, and I tend to think that if they didn't dick you for it on the spot, that perhaps the guy just wanted to have a look at your car!

You also said unmarked car & plain clothes..... did he produce any ID?

Maybe it wasn't even a real copper! (wishful thinking!)

[predator]

You also said unmarked car & plain clothes..... did he produce any ID? Maybe it wasn't even a real copper! (wishful thinking!)

With the flashing lights on top? Try explaining that one in court and see how it went down?

Who knows, you might be lucky. He might just go back and write you a 25km/hr over one. I'm sure most times i've been dicked they've written them down a bit lower. If thats the case, i'd just be happy to cop the 3 points and pay the $ and be done with it.

[KamikazeR33]

im sure in the adr's it says that a speeding infringment must be recorded with a speed detector of some sort

[KamikazeR33]

or somewhere ..... ive read it soemwhere b4.....

[SKY031]

Originally posted by KamikazeR33

im sure in the adr's it says that a speeding infringment must be recorded with a speed detector of some sort

Have a read of this thread, the person posting as Bluey is a member of the Victorian Traffic Management Unit.

click here

[slayer_1971]

Lets hope that you also don't receive an EPA notice as well

[predator]

btw: that legal corner has some other useful stuff in there too. I think some lawyers and things read through a lot of that stuff so I don't think its b.s.