1jzgte V Rb25det

[KamikazeR33]

they still handle ok

my ex has a sc300 n it aint too bad, hangs it round corners, steers where u want it to but it does feel like a boat when ur giving it stick around some hills. u can def feel the extra weight

[KamikazeR33]

but as for engine vs engine, alot of toyota experts believe the 1jz is a better engine than the 2jz

[Dee 33]

I'll comment on my personal experience with both since I've had it. I own a (was stock) modified R33 and my brother owns a TT Soarer running 14psi and that's it. No zorst, no pod, just boost.

Stock for stock, the auto Soarer is faster than the manual R33 in a straight line by far.

Modified, my 240rwkw has a far superior top end to the Soarer but with stock turbos on 14psi his car really pulls hard off the line. The power of the Soarer with boost and nothing else is far superior to what you'd achieve with an RB25.

1jz > RB25 easily

But...

Skyline > Soarer (in my opinion) as they're lighter, nimbler, look better, far easier to come across in a manual. I chose the Skyline when I had the choice. He chose the Soarer and regrets it because it's so heavy.

An R33 with a 1jz would be the absolute best of both worlds

[gts25t4door]

Skyline parts are cheaper and more mechanics know them. More develpoment in tuning them.

[Konrad]

Skyline parts are cheaper and more mechanics know them. More develpoment in tuning them.

not necessarily. A decent replacement rb25det ur lookin at at least 3K, you can get a 1jz for almost half that!! (supply demand i guess, plenty of blowing up rb's to cater for i guess).

And as someone said i chose the r33 cos it was lighter and easier to find in a manual, and was a better overall package. I found one manual soarer for sale in qld at the time and it was 30 grand..

Would seriously consider a 1jz swap if my rb crapped out...

[dangerous_daveo]

I guess if you can find a low end model that doesnt have all the extra crap, manual turbo, and played with the suspsension I think the soarer would kick arse. Toyotas from what I have seen anyway are much better cars than most nissans.

But the way I see it is, one is a sports car (skyline) the other is a GT car (soarer) but with money you could change that with both of them.

In terms of the engine, the 1j is just better. Cant compair them I dont think.

Tuners know them too, parts are ok. Yes there are less of them, so less parts, but they dont break so I would think demand would be less.

[grigor]

If everyone agrees the Soarer is overweight, why not look at a Chaser with the 1JZ....

[TTT]

cause it looks like a camry with different headlights?\

any specs on a chaser?

does it fall in to the $15K bucket?

[Konrad]

w00t .. jzx90 and jzx100 chasers are far better looking than a r33 sedan imo... definatley no camrys. I'd say they look like a bmw or something euro..

I used to have a mx83 cressida which is the same shape as the jzx80 chaser/cresta/mark 2. They weigh about 1400kgs, the later models (x90 and x100's ) are pushing 1500kgs depending on what options. Faster than a soarer, i remember hpi said the manual chaser was hard to get off the line and the auto ended up being faster across the quarter mile.

oh and unfortunatley the chasers are pretty rare. Not all of them over here have a 1jz, some a diesel versions with shoddy interior and live axle rear ends

x90 should set you back around 20 grandish? x100's seem to be about 24-28, a bit more for a manual if you're lucky to find one.

[TTT]

94-95 model

specs

Engine Code 1JZ-GTE

Engine Type Water cooled Inline 6 cylinder DOHC 24 valve twin turbo

Engine Size 2.5 litres (2491 cc)

Bore × stroke 86mm × 71.5mm

Compression ratio 8.5:1

Fuel system

Max power 206kW @ 6200rpm

Max torque 363Nm @ 4800rpm

Forced Induction Twin turbo

Fuel Tank Capacity 70 litres

Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline

Fuel Consumption 11.0 l/100km

Transmission 5 speed manual

Drive Layout FR

Steering Type Power assisted rack & pinion

Front Suspension ƒ_ƒuƒ‹ƒEƒCƒbƒVƒ...ƒ{[ƒ" type coil spring (stabilizer to attach)

Rear suspension ƒ_ƒuƒ‹ƒEƒCƒbƒVƒ...ƒ{[ƒ" type coil spring (stabilizer to attach)

Front brakes Ventilated disk

Rear brakes Ventilated disk

Front tyres 205/55r16 89v

Rear tyres 225/50R16 92v

Turning circle 10.2 m

Exterior Length 4750mm

Exterior Width 1750mm

Exterior Height 1390mm

Interior Length 1990mm

Interior Width 1475mm

Interior Height 1155mm

Wheelbase 2730mm

Front Track 1485mm

Rear Track 1490mm

Ground Clearance 155mm

Weight 1450kg

Standard features Limited slip differential, Front fog lamps, Rear spoiler, Driver airbag, Anti-lock braking system, Traction control, Rear seat lap sash belt, Side impact protection bars, Power windows, Central door locking, Steering wheel reach adjust, Steering wheel height adjust, Leather steering wheel, Wood trim, Alloy wheels

Optional features Front spoiler, Rear window wiper, Navigation system

Colours

[std] Super white II

[Opt] Dark green M.I.O.

[std] Silver metallic

[std] Dark turquoise mica

too camry like and still well in to the $20K region

and more auto's than in the soarers....

[ross80]

well actually Paul my $5000 grand in the last two months says that a street car rb can have a oil related failure.

Been riding a pushbike to work while I sourced a new motor.

Would you like a picture of the bike as proof? haha

[ross80]

And also I had a little drop bck to forth and compare torque race on the back highway with a sourer sub zero built and let me say disgraced me would be putting it nicely. The thing was of its tits.

[ctjet]

An R33 with a 1jz would be the absolute best of both worlds

thats essentialy a supra??....

[thommo]

thats essentialy a supra??....

err, not quite

[ctjet]

why not?? big power engine in a medium sized coupe

[ross80]

I can see your point.

But supras are wider and lower generally and im fairly sure they have a shorter wheel base. A well set up supra handles better than a 33 id imagine.

But I see your point, it would be in the same category for sure

[D-limo]

94-95 model

too camry like and still well in to the $20K region

and more auto's than in the soarers....

These can be had for under 20k now... The problem is finding a manual one. Have seen a couple of drift examples and they can look pretty damn good when done properly.

http://www.importbitz.com/cars.htm

JZX100's seem to be dropping in price too.

The main downer with x90's and x100's is the interior... And x81's for that matter

[1JZ.747]

MY 1JZGTE has done 184000k's on a factory internals, factory cams, factory intake manifold, with just big turbo injectors and ecu i am making 500rwhp through and auto and have done for 2 years, it doesnt blow smoke the catch can has never had a drop of oil in it and im running tens in a big heavy cressida.

show me an rb 25 that has done that.

toyotas are cheaper for parts, a complete engine only costs $500 rb 25s as far as i know cost like $1500. i havent seen a rb25 auto or manual make the power i am with simple bolt ons.

[thommo]

why not?? big power engine in a medium sized coupe

ok, well you said that an "r33 with a 1jz" is "essentially a supra"... its not.

its actually essentially an r33 with a 1jz.

presuming we're talking about a 94/95 supra (in line with the discussion), it never came with a 1jz (came with either 2jz-gte twin turbo or 2jz-ge NA)

[ross80]

$1500 keep going.

Mine cost $2800 for a decent one.

500 hp seems a little hard to believe. A rb26dett out of a gtr has same stock power as yours, and with computr injectors and turbo upgrade that would be a bit of a pipe dream.