Intercooler Style Air Filter

[-{danny}-]

HEY all , im thinking of buying a INTERCOOLER STYLE AIR FILTER from autotecnica 80 mm diameter and 1 metre long

chrome with cover to protect from water

$160 plus $30 for piping

i think this would be awesome for cold air intake better that a pod air filter

but im writing this thread for suggestions and to see wat other non turbo skyline owners think

[PORTS]

I have an NA Zed (aswell as a TT) and one advantage of the air intake

is the pod filter sits afront of the radiator.

This setup keeps hot engine-bay air out , so I would assume you would get a similar result.

Don't know how that filter would go being exposed to the elements?

Are there any power gains, claimed by the manufacturer?

[-{danny}-]

the advertisment did not specify power gains neither did any search results

the fact that it will be in direct exposure to cold air is a desirable feature

but then i thought what if it rains

its has a perspex cover for rain with holes for air flow but could be risky but otherwise im not sure

hopefully someone else can add to this thread some EDUCATED KNOWLEDGE

[baron25]

  -{danny}- said:

the advertisment did not specify power gains neither did any search results

the fact that it will be in direct exposure to cold air is a desirable feature

but then i thought what if it rains

its has a perspex cover for rain with holes for air flow but could be risky but otherwise im not sure

hopefully someone else can add to this thread some EDUCATED KNOWLEDGE

Word - there's too many 'faceless warriors' who hide behind screens around here.

As for the rain problem, if you think about it the probability of rain getting through the top of your front bar or through the grille is pretty low anyways (it'd have to be at a pretty oblique angle, like less than 45 degrees) and then for those few that do get through to also get through the airflow holes as well would be pretty low indeed. Unless you plan on crossing some major rivers i don't think it'd be too much of a problem.

[-{danny}-]

oh ok sounding good so far haha ive never seen it on a car before so its new to me and probably a lot of people

[ignuz]

Seems ok.. bit trying hardish.. but then again, that's what most people say about new things that try to imitate another.. until they eventually catch on.. IMO just get an airfilter.. I'm pretty keen on getting like a K & N one.. how easy/hard are they to attach?

[baron25]

Yeah, the shapes a bit tacky, probably trying to tap into the hi-po rice market. The idea's good though assuming it actually does sit right in the face of the incoming airstream.

[-{danny}-]

this intercooler style air filter is all about the cold air intake nothing to do with being hard and trying to imitate turbo skylines i have seen how my car runs wen receiving cold air opposed to warmer air and the performance difference is significant imagine how much cold air will be sucked in if u had one of these but im still not sure wether to go ahead and buy it because it really hasnt been done before or i havent seen it myself so my confidence level is low but then again if get educated respones it might tell me yes or no

[Wink]

If you put it exactly where you would put a FMIC, forget about it.

I drive through rainy days and the FMIC gets soaked in water.

Also, I doubt the filter can stand up to having all the little bugs, stones and other random shit that end up in a FMICs fins.

[cookie300zx]

ok so i was a little harsh before, and i apologise

yes the product would be excellent for cold air induction, however, if you front mounted it, it would also block off airflow into the radiator. how much is it out of interest? if it is polished stainless, i would say it would be rather expensive for an air filter. a much better option in my opinion would be to buy a normal K&N pod, or whichever brand you choose, and then you could get a piece of stainless made up so that you could mount the pod in front of your radiator, like my 300zx. another option would be to make an airbox like i have seen on other skylines, which has piping that takes air from the front bumper and re-directs it into the airbox. i doubt you would see any difference in power gains from either the air-box, FMIC style, or front mounted pod, air filter options. they would all give around about the same rwkw gain. wouldn't the perspex cover significantly reduce airflow when it was attached? another thing would be that the FMIC style air filter would get extremely dirty very quickly. it would be very hard to keep clean and at it's optimal efficiency, and i imagine that air filters of that size would be expensive to replace.

personally i would say just go with a pod front mounted. easy as pie to do, and extremely effective.

[Bunta]

  Wink said:

If you put it exactly where you would put a FMIC, forget about it.

I drive through rainy days and the FMIC gets soaked in water.

Also, I doubt the filter can stand up to having all the little bugs, stones and other random shit that end up in a FMICs fins.

Yeah have you seen how badly beatem up FMICS get from rocks/big bugs?? I imagine rocks would perforate that thing in a couple of days if it was in the same places as a FMIC

[SKY031]

  cookie300zx said:

how much is it out of interest?

  -{danny}- said:

$160 plus $30 for piping

It appears to be a regular panel filter with bling attached?

The back of it would have to be enclosed for it to work, so sticking it in front of the radiator won't do much good, you may be getting cold air to the intake, but that won't help when the car starts overheating because there is an obstruction in front of the radiator. :

The rest of what I was going to say has already been said by Bunta & Wink.

[[D4RKS1D3]]

is there gonna be enough suction to feed off that thing?

[Bunta]

Sorry to shit can your idea mate perhaps I should be constructive instead!!

I think your best bet would be to get a good brand filter like K&N or Apexi or somthing like that..then use the money saved to buy a length of that 80mm pipe seen in that pic of yours up the top....make a box around the filter....(Black plastic sheeting from bunnings and some silastic) and feed it via that 80mm pipe from in the front bar somwhere!

[lordsnipe]

I don't see this as any better than a K&N filter inside the stock airbox with the snorkel in place, except the extra risk with water on a rainy day.

[WazR32GTSt]

you could mount it horizontal (if it would fit) with the intake side facing down

that way avoiding most of the water and bugs etc without blocking hte radiator

but the question is still.. is it better than a pod? or even more so, is it better than a high-flow filter in the stock airbox?

this isn't going to give any more than an extra 0.1 kW so if that's the reason you are ding it then you're probably barking up the wrong tree..

[paulr33]

just use a panel filter in the stock airbox

those monza products are terrible

ive used one on my gtst and it was terrible

[342Four]

just put a high perf/high flow air filter in ur airbox and modyfy the bottom of ur airbox with a pvc feed pipe from near ur front bar - that way looks almost stock and sounds/goes really well

[ctjet]

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modyfy the bottom of ur airbox

if you mean cutting underneath the airbox, than thats not a good idea...

but does work well

[Master]

Well seeing that everyone's at it i might add my 2 cent worth too!! In my very limited experience/knowledge, ideally what you want is the max dynamic head in ur air box and the coolest air temps, simply cause of the affects density V temp. From the bits n pieces ive read so far, it sounds like havin this new style filter would also increase the length of the sealed section of the intake (from the filter). So if its increasing the efficiency that u really want then increasing the length means great frictional losses through the system. Id have to say using something like a K&N filter in its normal location and feeding that with cold air is the way to go. That way ur length stays the same, you have a proven well tested product doing the job and your getting cold air fed to it.