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Hey Guys,

Looking for some advice and for some parts....

The story:

Got defected by RTA for wheels/rubber/ride height - this one i can sort out... I was then passed on to the EPA where i registered 100dB for exhaust pollution at 4800rpm. The limit was 90dB so I now need to pass an emissions test. Copped a $450 fine, for that plus non standard air filters.

Just wondering if anyone could spare me some stock r32 gtr sparts ? Airbox and Exhaust? I will pay to hire it if i have to, or I will buy it too, just dont know where to look... I posted a WTB already.

Secondly, how hard is it to pass an EPA inspection ? It's the one at Lidcombe... has anyone had experience?

Thanks for your help

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Hey Guys,

Looking for some advice and for some parts....

The story:

Got defected by RTA for wheels/rubber/ride height - this one i can sort out... I was then passed on to the EPA where i registered 100dB for exhaust pollution at 4800rpm. The limit was 90dB so I now need to pass an emissions test. Copped a $450 fine, for that plus non standard air filters.

Just wondering if anyone could spare me some stock r32 gtr sparts ? Airbox and Exhaust? I will pay to hire it if i have to, or I will buy it too, just dont know where to look... I posted a WTB already.

Secondly, how hard is it to pass an EPA inspection ? It's the one at Lidcombe... has anyone had experience?

Thanks for your help

Exhaust is what they are most strict about due to noise pollution (if noise pollution is what they got you for, just put stock exhaust back on). If they try to get you for emmissions pollution then ur better off taking the car to complete stock form including exhaust, turbo and performance internals, intake etc.

I had only noise pollution offence 3 times so I never copped a fine except a warning letter stating i could be facing up to $33000 if they catch me again with an aftermarket exhaust system that exceeds noise limit.

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It's a bit of a cop out that they do the test at such high RPM. How many of us actually drive around revving our cars that hard to make that much noise on a regular basis? not that many.. You get the occasional few but still, it's not like you're going to sit on 4800rpm through a suburban street at night pumping out that 100db.

Good luck getting it sorted out, unfortunate to hear they've fined you for such petty items.

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i've had experiences there.. twice!!! your story is exactly what happened to me!!

i suggest the stock box to pass the epa inspection.. and then put the filter back on plus a box! (thats apparently legal!)

the emissions test is very hard to fudge!! the first time i managed to get my car running very lean, and i passed after a couple of emissions tests... (i think they may have let me off!).. the second time i had to go further being a second offence.. i had my tuner sitting in the car pulling fuel outta the tune, and i had the stock exhaust.. i also went to the emissions facility about 3 times.. did about 20 runs all up before the epa were happy!

a word of advice.. find a perm solution for being under 90dbs... only on the off chance you get done again... the second time for me was very hard to pass, plus the epa took me to court.. it wasn't pleasant, and you can bet it costs a hell of alot more than just fixing the prob!

i also suggest for the emissions test, you go to the penrith facility! alot of people told me the botany peeps weren't nice.. i found the penrith guy to be very nice and friendly!

bad luck with actually stumbling across an epa setup.. most people just complain after they get defected by a cop... all they need is a dodgy mechanic to pass them.. it sux having to go through the actual exercise... ;)

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OH!! and actually passing the epa inspection is not hard.. they look at the stock box.. tick.. they do another noise test.. tick if you're under.. its the emissions test that causes all the problems!

good luck!

Hey Moanie, thanks alot for your help... I really appreciate it! The thing is, they told me to go to an epa inspection station at Lidcombe. Thats what im not getting.... it's not botany or penrith... this is an EPA test facility at lidcombe so im assuming they wont do an emissions test?

Cheers

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ahh.. the actual epa centre is at lidcombe.. where they will clear your defects... did they actually ask you do do an emissions test when they got you at the epa setup? if not, you'll all good.. and if they don't mention it when you're at lidcombe you're home free!! just don't mention it!!

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yeappp.. go as lean as you can!! and richen up when you leave!! take your tuner if possible and try to get the car as stock as possible!

the good thing is, the emissions tests are free... and you can go as many times as you like (though booking the test is hard as there is alwyas a long wait : )... as long as you fax or keep the epa up to date on what you're doing, they'll give you abit of time to pass... that gives you a chance to experiment!

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Do they run the car on the dyno up to the test limit ? My noise levels were tested at 4800, so would they only dyno up to 4800 for emissions ? Or do they go the whole rev range

BTW, being a little retarded i misunderstood the defect notice. I do need to go to RTA at penrith, then to EPA to get it cleared

Cheers

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the emissions tests involves them putting your car on a dyno, then attaching a pipe around your exhaust to capture all fumes... they then have a road scenario that the guy will drive through... from memory they don't really rev to 4800.. they just go through a normal cruisey drive!! what sux is they put you in a little room with a window so you can see whats happening! lol! you're not allowed to be in the testing room!

they'll give you a print out which you take to the epa at lidcombe... who will then tell you if you have pased or not! the rta emissions guys is pretty nice, so just ask him what the readings should be when he has done the runs... that'll give you an idea if you pass or not....

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I just spoke to matt (hitman) who said it's not as simple as just leaning the car out. Apparently they check for 3 types of gases, and if you do lean out, it puts higher temperature in other areas which causes an increase in gas levels or so.... just thought that info might be handy to know.

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exhaust noise tests are done at 4800rpm... you have to be at or under 90db at that point!

yeap! thats true! sorry mr flex... there are 3 gases... haha.. i thought the fix was leaning out! matt was the tuner that went out with me... he did alot of work while the guy was putting my car through its paces... i thought it was mainly leaning out the tune.. my bad!

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