Questions About The Laws In Vic About High Powered Cars..

[ardie]

so ruffls, what did u do after the 2nd and final warning?

[TracidTrax]

i reckon 90% of rego stickers ive seen are way off actual weights...my cousins VX clubsport says its like 1400kg...surely its up around 1600kg

haha ye its all bs

my NA supra says 1100 and my TT Supra has 1510

[Mr. Oizo]

so ruffls, what did u do after the 2nd and final warning?

sold the 33, and bought a 32

[TracidTrax]

Crap, that means that my car is over the limit(2 door-1989-1991 158kws)I Better be careful from now on..thanks for the info

dont worry, cops dont give chicks shit

[TracidTrax]

i got done twice for it.. the police then wouldnt let me drive home and said next time they catch me (strike 3) i get a summonse to court.....

main thing id like to know is was it the same cop both times?

[TracidTrax]

sorry bout the massive pic guys.. if you complain enough, i'll change it to just a hotlink...

haha notice the cops put a tick next to my car to show me :@

-Mark

lol the cop ripped that out infront of me because my mate told them the Supra RZ is legal for P platers to drive he didnt buy it

[ardie]

sold the 33, and bought a 32

hope this doesnt heppen 2 me

[CrispyFries]

After looking at the list Ruffels posted, I noticed R32 GT-R isn't listed as cars to be enforced then does this means I can 'legally' drive R32 GT-R on my Ps?

I know R32 GT-R is over power to weight ratio that already make this car ILLEGAL for P-platers to drive so it would seem that this car is excluded from the list of enforced cars.

And also noticed that most of cars police are now enforced are imported under SEVS scheme, this got me wondering that any of 63 Australian delivered R32 GT-Rs are being excluded from the rule?

Could anyone shed the light of the question?

Cheers

Grant

give me a minute and i'll scan a list i have of "imported" cars the victorian TMU police have all been given to look out for p platers driving them...

-Ruffels

That list was of imported cars, because the R32 GTR was also a locally delivered model it will be on the main list of cars that are illegal to drive.

Restricted Vehicles Guide for Pre 2004 models (28kb PDF)

So no, you can't legally drive an R32 GTR on your P's

[Ruffels]

i would imagine that you cannot drive the 1999 Jap spec imported S15's.. as they have around 164kw i think.. how ever the australian delivered S15's only have 147 kw i beleive... therefore putting it under the limit.. and yes, same with S14's

as for the R32 gtr.. it appears on the massive austrlain delivered car banned list on the vicroads website.. however .. yeah that would only apply to the locally imported r32 gtrs i would think... so its strange R32 gtr's arent on tht list!... allthough it does say down the bottom of that list that its not exhaustive...

as for me.. i bought a 1993 R32 gts-4 ... bit of a downgrade from my r33... but can make it work i spose

got done by different cops, but form same police station... second time they pretty much made me walk home, while my car was stopped in a no standing bus bay on the side fo the road... i asked if i could drive it home the 900m.. and they said no.. we catch you again and we will gve you et another high powered vihicle fine, and take you down to the station for repeat offending a crime and you will be ordered to appear in court..

i drew the line there as far as driving the r33 again

however it is a gamble, its a rsk you take... i choose red and it landed on black.. so bad luck for me, i just hope you other guys have better luck!

still have the r33.. im just getting it ready to be sold

if i get anymore info on car stats or power/weight stuff i'll post it up.. i have been given adam petetts direct work phone number and was instructed to call him if i had ay queeries about the power weight fines i was given, and why it applied to me... funniest part is.. i live no where near knox, and ive never even met petett... however, apparently he had a very large role in producing that list..

i wonder why the rb26dett stageas arent on there

-Mark

[Mulkers]

the r33 gtr has the second lowest power to weight on there!

My car's rego says 1300.

And I don't think the fuzz would know that the weights changed in 1991.

Interesting that FC rx7s, all evos other than the VII GSR, Familia GTRs etc aren't on the list.

Doesn't mean anything though, they'll still do you.

[TracidTrax]

lol at petetts, he knows his shit and u dont wanna mess with him

ill be sure to stay away from Knox

[Fugi]

HAHAHa nice one.. so true.. the cop opend my bonet and said some shit like he knows its too powerfull cauz it has 5 bolts on the wheels insted of 4.. thats when i was like WDF..

[DivHunter]

Oh no, no more driving the Maranello....

[Ruffels]

HAHAHa nice one.. so true.. the cop opend my bonet and said some shit like he knows its too powerfull cauz it has 5 bolts on the wheels insted of 4.. thats when i was like WDF..

yes because 5 stud indicated turbo, where as non turbos are 4 stud.. however.. that only applies for R33 and upwards as R32 gts-t's are under the limit

but its funny because an r32 gts-t is JUST under the limit.. and you can drive it.. where as you would most likely get bent over by the cops if you got caught driving a car that is JUST over the limit.. so between the cars you can and cant drive there might be 1kw... now good luck telling the difference between them while driving them! but i spose it comes down to the fact that they have to draw the line somewhere... just annoying that where they have drawn the line (125kw/tonne) just eliminates so many cars.. if they increased the limit by a further 10-15kw... the amounts of cars you could drive would be significantly greater!

its funny though because with better technology and materials/engines used in cars .. cars these days are getting more powerful and lighter.. i mean look at the new mitsubishi 380.. isnt that damn close to the power/weight ratio limit?

correct me if i am wrong.. but it just seems like in the future there will be fewer and fewer cars that p platers can drive

-Mark

[DivHunter]

base spec falcons are over te limit

[Ruffels]

fark me.. i just had a look on redbook

lol 2005 sportivo corollas are 118kw/tonne hahah thats only 7kw below the limit... they would be little pocket rockets

[**JaR**]

lol go the rolla!

[Mulkers]

Base model falcons and commodores are getting close if not over.

190 kw, but they are heavy...

[R31Nismoid]

After looking at the list Ruffels posted, I noticed R32 GT-R isn't listed as cars to be enforced then does this means I can 'legally' drive R32 GT-R on my Ps?

I know R32 GT-R is over power to weight ratio that already make this car ILLEGAL for P-platers to drive so it would seem that this car is excluded from the list of enforced cars.

And also noticed that most of cars police are now enforced are imported under SEVS scheme, this got me wondering that any of 63 Australian delivered R32 GT-Rs are being excluded from the rule?

Could anyone shed the light of the question?

Cheers

Grant

Just because something isnt on some "concocted" list... doesnt mean you wont get pinned for it.

Its the law, your breaking it so. AUS delivered, Jap... whatever.

Its a GT-R, its over the Power to Weight, end of story.

Have a look at the cars listed... i could think of another dozen cars that arent on there.

And i can gaurantee you anyone caught driving them + an officer that knows whats going on = FINE

This thread is over.

Guys, you wanna drive illegal cars there is nothing that can be achieved about it on here