Would You Buy Your Child A Car?

[KILLA_R34_GTR]

i guess it all depends on the situation and how well off you are

personally i would buy my kids a car whether it was a gtr or a bmw like i said it all depends on the circimstances if u have enough money and have enough faith in your kids, could be very good motivation for your kids to get good marks in skool but not every kid is the next all knowing all seeing car enthiust and if the parents are all they can do is try and pass the gift on to their kids and point them in the right direction and it is the son/daughter's decision to choose what path they take from their all you can do is offer some friendly advice...i have seen parents who think that yelling at a kid is going to knock some sence into them and point them in the right direction well im the exact opposite.

like i said it is up to the kid yelling is going to help no one, by yelling the kid is more likely to go the opposite way to ur pointing them...so i'll get back to the question "would you buy your child a car ?"

yes i would whether it would be a lambo,bmw or a skyline i would leave that up to them to decide...childhood is sposed to be the happy time of your life so i would do my bet to let them have fun and not worry about the financial side of thing like saving up to buy a car etc. but try to teach them not to take thing for granted in life.

Cheers

[yoshimitsu9]

my opinion comes from my experiences as im only 17...

i have had a job since ive been legally able to, working a shift a week of varying in the number of hours and not working at all (i had personallity clashes with 2 of the 6 managers that i have worked with so the odds were against me for a long period of time) now i earn $80-$100 per week (my inteded goal) and it simply isnt enough to save for a car. my parents have always said that i have to pay for my car my self (as with 90% of the things in my life) so many pple have had alot of things payed for by their parents so thats where my point for this thread comes from.

for my kids i will pay for their first car, the value of the car will depend on the financial statis i have when the time comes. because i do not want them to have to pay for everything throughtout there lives like i have had to do, they will have a part time job (i will make them, so they learn the importance of having a little extra cash to make life a little nicer) but at the end of the day no child should have to put work b4 school, family, social life just to pay for a car

Edited April 25, 2006 by yoshimitsu9

[Dale FZ1]

It's a balancing act between personal/family values, goals, ability to "let go" of control and financial status.

We've been through 2 episodes of supply vehicle, stuck with the idea of low-power, low-cost transport which we believe is the ideal for beginner drivers. Good (ie safe/predictable) handling though, is a must. Understeering front wheel drive is acceptable as long as there's no snap lift-off oversteer that goes with it. Hence two early model Hyundai Excels. Satisfaction rating with the vehicles not bad, and no bent car, scenery, or people.

Shaking the immature mindset of a young driver/adult is the hard part in that they need to appreciate the concerns and extension of trust in providing them with a car. I don't believe it is appropriate in all cases or households, just a judgement of circumstance.

[R34GT-t_07]

i agre with yoshimitsu9 no kid should have to put work before school so that they can buy a car on their own for them self i hate people who make their kids work for everything them self thats just wrong and selfish (IF I HAD TO BUY MY CAR MYSELF, SO WILL MY KIDS) thats wrong attitude and the wrong way to rais ur kids, I am 20 and i own an r34 gtt i got it after driving my brothers golf mk4 GTI for 1.5 years to gain experiance as i would have killed my self with the skyline otherwise,my mother boutht me this car she had no problems doing so and what made the desicion easier for her was that i got in to uni and she was happy with that. Setting a goal for ur kids to work towards something is a good idea and yes u should by them their first car after they have had experiance on something else thats not to poverfull.

for those of u who say that u will make ur kids earn everything themselfs for them selfs i HATE U and if thats ur attitude u SHOULD NEVER BECOME PARENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[MIVEC]

for those of u who say that u will make ur kids earn everything themselfs for them selfs i HATE U and if thats ur attitude u SHOULD NEVER BECOME PARENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

You were going soo well, untill you wrote that.

I'm 20 and I own a reasonably modified R33 and a modded Mitsubishi FTO. I have paid for every single car and car related purchase I have ever made. Do I hate my parents (HA, emo) for making me pay for everything, no! It has merely increased the respect I have for them and made me realise that whatever happens to the cars I'll have to make sure I have enough pennies saved up to deal with.

When you have to pay for everything yourself you learn pretty quickly how to budget and save your hard earned dollars.

Edited April 26, 2006 by MIVEC

[R34GT-t_07]

You were going soo well, untill you wrote that.

I'm 20 and I own a reasonably modified R33 and a modded Mitsubishi FTO. I have paid for every single car and car related purchase I have ever made. Do I hate my parents (HA, emo) for making me pay for everything, no! It has merely increased the respect I have for them and made me realise that whatever happens to the cars I'll have to make sure I have enough pennies saved up to deal with.

When you have to pay for everything yourself you learn pretty quickly how to budget and save your hard earned dollars.

I wrote that its the right thing of parents to either buy or help their child buy a car i never said that the child shouldnt have a job or lern how to control cashflow but as i said there should be an initiative for the child as it will help him/her work towards a gole in life.

My mates parents didnt help him with anything as soon as he turned 15 they told him that he should suport him self as he was old enough to work to cut long story short he had to drop out of school so that he could have the things that others had around him and now works in a factory.

Me personaly wouldnt watn this for my kids and will make sure that they have everything that i didnt as a kid.

BY the way i have a job and I am attending uni studying electronics(Eng) and pay for half of my car including any other spending on it such as serviceing it and fixing it up. point of the story is that ur parents should help u, not bring u into this world and say do it ur self.

[MIVEC]

Why though....sure they should help you....but only to a point, still receiving stuff from your parents at like 20 seems a bit retarded to me. Even if you're at Uni (aka student budget) you should still pay for the majority of your stuff, it's part of what University is about - going through low budgets in the hope of graduating to a nice high paying job.

I know I sure as hell wouldn't want my parents working away only to spend all their money on me. It just seems so wrong.

Me personaly wouldnt watn this for my kids and will make sure that they have everything that i didnt as a kid.

What you might have then is that your kids then grow up expecting to get everything they want when they ask for it. My girlfriend's 5 year old sister gets everything from her parents whenever she wants, she comes up to me and expects me to give her whatever she feels like and then gets a huge shock/chucks a tantrem when I say no.

As for me, I can't say what I'd end up doing as I

A: Don't have kids

B: Can't predict what they'd grow up to be like which would be the ultimate factor in deciding whether or not I'd buy them a car.

[Starionturbo]

Ive actually thought about this quite a bit and the simple fact is NO.

Since I was 15 1/2 I bought my first car, with the money I earned from working hard. First car only cost me 3 grand, but I worked my ass off for it.

I have since had over 15 cars and ive always wished my parents bought me a car. Now in Hindsight, I look back and appreciate what they did. They could have easily bought me a car, but because I bought it with my hard earned cash, I appreciated it more, I respected and looked after it even more.

It taught me to not take things for granted.

I always let them know Im glad they didnt buy me a car!

[ross80]

Ok here is a black and white point which pretty much displays the differance in attitudes and settles the argument.

1. I earnt everything myself, I have owned 3 nice cars. I have sold all 3 cars in much the same condition they were when I bought them and I appreciated and loved my cars.

2. Out of guilt for some reason my mother decided to hand everything out to my brother who is 18 and he has owned 2 cars. Both of those cars were sold to the wreckers for spare parts because he destroyed them!

We had the same decent upbringing with the exception that I was out of home young and grew up quick and earnt EVERTYTHING.

He is a pretty good kid dont get me wrong he is studing multimedia and good most the time.

But He has no respect or appreciation for anything material because he hasnt earnt it.

Full Stop!

[Primordial]

I think a good way to do it is to match whatever your kid saves and they have that much to buy a car... eg. if they save $10,000, they have $20,000 to buy a car with. This provides incentive to want to save and also helps them out a bit. That's the deal I got on my first car - loved it!

[ross80]

Yeah that sounds like a good idea.

Id probably make that deal with my kids one day actually.They would still learn the lesson saving 50% of the car.

[_8OO5TED_]

my parents bought me my first car, a modded TX3 Turbo for $8K. I set up a Direct debit and paid them off monthly that way it give me a tru sense of ownership. My parents are well off and it was only $8K but I am greatful that they did it that way. I have borrowed small amounts off them and paid them off in the same way. Much cheaper than a bank loan charging interest

[_8OO5TED_]

I think a good way to do it is to match whatever your kid saves and they have that much to buy a car... eg. if they save $10,000, they have $20,000 to buy a car with. This provides incentive to want to save and also helps them out a bit. That's the deal I got on my first car - loved it!

My parents did that for me for my 21st, they matched my bank acct balance on the day of my 21st. I acquired a healthy little sum there

[gazza750]

i would but only a bunky forthem to learn basic skills with

[scathing]

If I had the means, I'd buy my kid a car.

Mind you, it'd be an absolute shitbox. Something like an old Corolla, Excel or the like. I'd encourage them to do motorkhanas in it at first, to get their skill level up.

If they had an interest and their skill improved, I'd then consider assisting them in buying something a bit nicer. Probably an S13 NA, which has better balance and is RWD. After that, they'll be old enough to sort themselves out.

If they had no interest in doing motorsport, or couldn't handle it, then I'd assist them in buying a modern econobox after the shitter. Something with good safety features and creature comforts, but definitely no sporting pretensions. And if they tried to modify it....then I'd remove the assistance. If I don't think they can handle a sports car, then they're not going to try turning it sporty.

N.B. I said "assist". I wouldn't buy it for them outright, but I'd lend them money or if I was in the right tax bracket and working for a big company I'd put it on my novated lease. I'd knock off some of the repayments for their birthday or rewards for doing other things, if they wanted.

But they'd have to earn it.

[MK2]

'puts teeth back in'

Ahem, well living out of town so far as we did at the time it was pretty important to get a licence and some kind of car simply to get around, visit friends and root girlfriends in. At the time I was working for the folks through the last three years of high school so I mostly borrowed their cars and did sort of a late arvo courier service for them and I did look after their cars pretty well.

(Because if I didnt, I'd get f**king owned so bad!)

My own cars, still bring fond tears to my eye, mostly because of what I destroyed in the youthful enthusiasm of learning to drive, belting through dirt, gravel and badly tarred roads in rally competitions in things like Mini minor (blew up, rolled it into a ditch and probably still there) bought for $200. Mk1 Escort Coupe, which I did some pretty heavy duty work to it and was my first real learning experience on how engines work, dad being a mechanic helped a lot! But that Escort died a horrible death off a couple of pine trees, a large rock and a gully due to icy roads and a knob behind the wheel, but for $400, high compression tuned up motor with a webber that could suck up a small furry animal at 3ft away it was a lot of fun, cut the engine out with an axe and sold it for $800

The datto 180B SSS was a serious bit of metal until I managed to work out they didnt like being redlined and cooked the motor, same with the 1600 datto which was some really serious shit, that thing with a big twin carbie setup and extractors would do about 170km/h and silly old me sold it to a bogan for a $1000 which was big money at the time I guess and I needed to get my arse to uni somehow.

Most of those cars are worth 5-8x what I paid for them now, so that mostly why I cry...

Uni car, was a Peugot 504 1971 beastie with this awesome 4wheel disk brakes, handled on rails suspension and served me well all through uni, looking back on it, that old Pug was at least 20years ahead of the aussie crap in terms of technology on just the independant suspension, brakes and comfort. Ugly, gutless but no one would ever steal it and until it blew the head gasket sadly no longer.

After that it was back to a whole hodge podge of cars, another 180B and my grandparents sold me a 1974 Ford Landau in mint, original condition for $2000 which I left at my parents place to age like fine wine, it was and still is a fairly remarkable vehicle in a lot of respects and features with things like an all-cow interior, front and rear bucket seats and the ol 5.8L clevo 4valve I managed to scrounge up for it out of boredom. However I couldnt drive it as even back then it was scary thirsty and in Sydney it'd get stolen quicker than a $5 bill on the sidewalk. So, I sold it unrego'ed to a collector for $5,500 and only sold it too him because he wasnt a bogan and I wouldnt have to live with seeing it painted fag-pink with a huge scoop on the bonnet or something the equivalent of.

The Sil is my latest toy, I imported it over six years ago and its done me well over that time with barely any problems, like most sil's they get faster with age! hehe, but its extraordinarily looked after, hell the bastard gets looked after better than I do...

Next car early next year I think will be an R34 or something or maybe an R32GTR if I havent grown up by then or petrol doesnt cost $3 a litre.

I love cars, you do have to buy your own, even if its on family or mates rates to really appreciate things, it gets people out of the 'charity mindset' I call it. Where they dont spend anything, therefore it doesnt have any particualr personal worth to them, thats something I'd like to ingraine in anyone as I think its a good value to have in life.

Edited April 26, 2006 by MK2

[GAIJIN-180sx]

I would buy my kids their first car but the thing would only be about 3G's just so that they can appreciate the fact that i bought it for them like my parents did for me. I dont think children should be spoon fed their whole life, and be given everything they have to learn there own way in life. And buying them a brand new BMW or 200sx is not a step in the rite direction!

[Primordial]

I would buy my kids their first car but the thing would only be about 3G's just so that they can appreciate the fact that i bought it for them like my parents did for me. I dont think children should be spoon fed their whole life, and be given everything they have to learn there own way in life. And buying them a brand new BMW or 200sx is not a step in the rite direction!

Here here...

I'd like to see stats of the amount of nice cars that are written off or neglected to the point of destruction, by kids who get given these cars for nothing. I bet that 70-80% of these spoilt kids dont realise the real value of their cars and treat them like total shit as a consequence.... I've seen a few of my mates do this actually. its sad

[Michael_1882]

I had my first job at 8years old, worked 3hours 20mins to get $10 at the local nursary down the road every sunday weeding pot plants. I hated it, it was hell and the old bat made me crawl under the benchs because i was little. This is how i saved up for my first motor bike, i look back now and think i probably only made a couple of hundred and when you consider a second hand motor bike for a kid's still aroudn $2000 -------->

But it tough me to work for everything i get.

My parents gave me 2grad towards my skyline loaned me another 8 and trhe rest i had saved, the fact is because they know i'll pay them back now im at schoool and the loaned me money intrest free, to work and pay them back. I just turned 18 and choose not to booze up becuase i don't think its fair untill i have them paid back.

Thats my oppinion, i think buying an expensive car is wrong, if a car helps or works then thats fine, but to just say here 10k for a car is probably doing more harm then good, i know i've but blood sweat and tears into this skyline and i'm still paying it off. That what gets me out there washing it 2-3times a week (its black and i live of a dirt road) it teacher you to respect it.

On the other hand if a parent was to buy the child a 2-3k car thats fine as long as they don't pay for fule and running costs, they need to learn cars are expensive to run. A 2-3k car is proably helping the parents out, they don't have to drive the kid around as much and the fact that they bough the whole car for the kid warrents the parrent saying oi pick up your younger sister.

Thats my 2cents worth

Michael

[Michael_1882]

I woudl just like to add ppl see red P's R33 and think spoilt little Cee You Next Tuesday. And i'm sure alot that coudl apply to but some of us still have school, go home assignment school work (those doing the HSC) then work saturday and sunday all day at shit rates to save for a car, still try and fit in sport, and gym (some sort of exercise) sleep, social life, and higher insurance.

I hate when ppl judge that becuase you got a red p on a nice car then you have been handed to them on a sliver platter.

Michael