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as usual, wanky americans building cars that dont go around corners or bends.

But untill i see an american car that can turn corners im not even gonna bother thinking that they have a decent car that can race.

kol, last i checked Honda is a japanese brand. not made in america.

I live where this race occured. Here is the dyno sheet for the GTR from dynopro.com. The civic that he raced is probably making 450-500whp. Civics like this one are all over the place out here. Horrible powerband for the GTR as you can see. It is HKS T51R with basically no supporting mods. Probably did not even spool while racing.

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I live where this race occured. Here is the dyno sheet for the GTR from dynopro.com. The civic that he raced is probably making 450-500whp. Civics like this one are all over the place out here. Horrible powerband for the GTR as you can see. It is HKS T51R with basically no supporting mods. Probably did not even spool while racing.

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That's shocking...

yes it is believe it or not!

still a nugget!

compared to a turbo that is...

Last time i checked a 13 was not too bad. That is not even hard to achieve with an eg and a bone stock K series. I dont know maybe I am preaching to the 10 second crowd but where i am from 13slooks pretty fast on the street.

I live where this race occured. Here is the dyno sheet for the GTR from dynopro.com. The civic that he raced is probably making 450-500whp. Civics like this one are all over the place out here. Horrible powerband for the GTR as you can see. It is HKS T51R with basically no supporting mods. Probably did not even spool while racing.

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That is one terrible graph, must be one crappy tune, and a car with half its Max power with a better average tune would be able to take it easy.

Some civics sure are fast. there is quite a fwd culture in some countries where they are posting some good times. with a decent suspension setup they can corner well too.

with enough money you can get a hyundai excel to accelerate faster than a badly tuned gtr. it's all about power to weight not the badge on the car.

you look at that site and can find all sorts of cars beating machinery you wouldn't expect. ferrari's and lambo's get beaten by some cheap cars with big mods. there's even a turbo'd viper (could be twin turbo) that beats a turbo suzuki hayabusa (spelling?) where the rider of the bike admits to getting beaten. I found that hard to believe though apprently they were both trying.

it you want acceleration by a cheap car. Add a big big engine and add forced induction. Oh and take out the unwanted weight. it's a simple formula.

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Like many had said if you got the cash you can do up and bomb and whoop anyones arse whether if its gtrs or not. All you need a sh!t load of cash if money arent a thang then go for it if standing out from the crowd is your thing.

i think the sad reality is that the gtr just got smoked

some civics and the like are incredibly fast. there are a couple here in nz that look standard and run low 11's / high 10's.

sure the gtr is a great car but that doesnt automatically mean that because you own one means that your instantly fast. thats almost adopting the holden v8 drivers mentality

Jesus grow up! lol

I have a skyline and I love it but they are not the quickest car on the road and especially not anymore with all the euro cars/hatches which are putting out the same sort of stock power as us.

Be realistic about it or you risk becoming a bogan who thinks his vl is the quickes thing around hahahah

sure the gtr is a great car but that doesnt automatically mean that because you own one means that your instantly fast. thats almost adopting the holden v8 drivers mentality

Thats a really un-fair generalisation, since you dont know what every single Holden V8 driver's mentality is.

Ross80: While that does happen, think about the people who have spent alot of money and time on their VLs who arent bogans.

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