I Want To Die.......

[Babylon]

The other day i was watching Video's my friends and i made when we were playing with fireworks

I noticed on the video we drove past a petrol station and petrol was 89 cents.. Man those were the days

Disclaimer: The petrol station was not our destination it is just coincidence that we had fireworks in the car!

Edited April 20, 2006 by Babylon

[wilch]

You're so old Wil.

how's the saying go?

"You're only as old as the girl you feel..."

so that makes me, what, 19? w00t

[fatz]

$1.50 dollars to drive 10km(most normal cars)

they day i walk 10 km for 1.50 dollars will be the day i die

quite ya bitching

[rb30gtr]

Gas-guzzling people like you are the reason why we're using so much oil, which is why the demand is outstripping supply, which is why prices are so high.

What on earth are you talking about, there is enough oil for thousands of years, the reason they say we are running out is so they can increase the price. The earth will be dead before the oil runs out.

Australia has its own oil reserves that was bought many many years ago at a tiny fraction of what they are claiming to be currently paying.

You sound like Today Tonight or A Current Affair constantly bullshitting people into being either scared or comfortable in rediculous price rising.

[75coupe]

Yesterdays oil prices were the highest ever....ever... That's why petrol is expensive, I and a fair few other people in the world really do believe we will see close to $2 a litre by christmas 2006...

Get ready...

[rb30gtr]

Yesterdays oil prices were the highest ever....ever... That's why petrol is expensive, I and a fair few other people in the world really do believe we will see close to $2 a litre by christmas 2006...

Get ready...

fack, my 67 ute will be staying in bed that sucker drinks it

[Gonad Man]

if you dont like it so much sell your car. otherwise just suck it up. in probably 50% of developed countries fuel is more expensive than here. deal with it. i run 3 cars. 2 turbo'd (1 twin turbo) and the 3rd is a V8. if anyone knows the impact of increased prices it's me.

Just to present another viewpoint:

If you think the increase in petrol prices will only affect what you pay at the bowser you are mistaken. Everything will get more expensive and it's quite possible interest rates will rise as well. This will severely impact most people, even those who can't afford to own 3 cars.

I'm not suggesting you have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth but I just don't agree with your "suck it up" stance.

Australia is affected more severely than most other countries by an increase in fuel prices due mainly to our huge area and sparsely-distributed population. An increase in fuel prices makes everything we produce more expensive (to a greater degree than most other developed countries) which makes us less competitive in a world market which makes imports more attractive.

Anyway I'm not an economist by any stretch of the imagination so I'll shut up right now.

I just wish the govt would relax the tax they get from fuel. I'm happy to keep contributing the same $ amount I was 2 years ago but I think the % is just not fair, especially in light of the fact that the RTA's annual budget has dropped from about $2.2 bil in 2001/02 to $1.9 bil in 2005/06 (as far as I can remember).

End rant,

Ben

[GoldZilla]

I just wish the govt would relax the tax they get from fuel. I'm happy to keep contributing the same $ amount I was 2 years ago but I think the % is just not fair, especially in light of the fact that the RTA's annual budget has dropped from about $2.2 bil in 2001/02 to $1.9 bil in 2005/06 (as far as I can remember).

End rant,

Ben

Here here... I'm totally with you on this one. Little Johnny has (I think falsely) led us into believing that our economy is doing better, simply to bring us unstuck again with rising fuel prices, but no relaxing of taxes.

Dammit, the way it is now we pay taxes ON OUR TAXES!

[Babylon]

Just to present another viewpoint:

If you think the increase in petrol prices will only affect what you pay at the bowser you are mistaken. Everything will get more expensive and it's quite possible interest rates will rise as well.

End rant,

Ben

The reserve bank will not increase interest rates if the petrol prices keep increasing they way they are. They simply can not justify it.

Gonad Man was right there is enough oil for thousands of years. The reason why oil is expensive it because Middle Eastern governments hold it as ransom. Just as long as there isn’t peace in the middle east prices of oil will go up. Recently The US government have been threatening Iran with its nuclear projects hence the price of oil goes up.

[Abo Bob]

There is a shitload of information out there about how much (little) oil there is. I don't know where you too get your info from. Probably Paul Wolfowitz (sp?).

Interest rates wont rise anytime soon. They will just keep on hinting that they will to keep inflation in check.

Also, fuel doesn't add as much to the price of things as you think. Australia actually has one of the most efficient freight systems in the world - if not the most efficient.

When the last fuel price surge happened Dairy Farmers tried to put a litre of milk up 13 cents claiming increased fuel costs. Then someone leaked a document showing that fuel accounts for about 2 cents a litre total meaning that any increase would be likely to be around 0.2 cents a litre.

Also, along with most people in this country there seems to be some confusion on what are State responsibilities and what are Federal. The RTA is a State based organisation and while the states do tax petrol, they don't take any where near as much as the federal government. In fact, the federal government taxes it twice. Gotta love the tax on a tax!!

[Beer Baron]

Just to present another viewpoint:

If you think the increase in petrol prices will only affect what you pay at the bowser you are mistaken. Everything will get more expensive and it's quite possible interest rates will rise as well. This will severely impact most people, even those who can't afford to own 3 cars.

I'm not suggesting you have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth but I just don't agree with your "suck it up" stance.

Australia is affected more severely than most other countries by an increase in fuel prices due mainly to our huge area and sparsely-distributed population. An increase in fuel prices makes everything we produce more expensive (to a greater degree than most other developed countries) which makes us less competitive in a world market which makes imports more attractive.

Anyway I'm not an economist by any stretch of the imagination so I'll shut up right now.

I just wish the govt would relax the tax they get from fuel. I'm happy to keep contributing the same $ amount I was 2 years ago but I think the % is just not fair, especially in light of the fact that the RTA's annual budget has dropped from about $2.2 bil in 2001/02 to $1.9 bil in 2005/06 (as far as I can remember).

End rant,

Ben

mr gonad, i have to say you do make a convincing argument. dont get me wrong i dont like paying more than i have to, and would love for the government to reduce the tax on petty. BUT i was just sick of all the farking moaning about it. i mean starting a thread called "i want to die" because petrol price increased by 10c per litre? that's why i say suck it up. plus it's all i hear about lately, people complaining about petrol price. sure it's a problem but it really doesnt effect life all that much unless you are driving many, many kms per week. and most of the people bitching are not.

[Haysey]

Is the car tuned for its mods?

Best get it on a dyno to see what the ECU is doing. I'm not as familiar with Skylines, but my mate's S15 was drinking like a fish after he did the exhaust / FMIC / boost control mods. Once he had a PowerFC installed and tuned, it ran a lot better.

But yeah, lay off the boot and wind down the boost. Its not like you need maximum power around town. If your ECU is tunable, get a more fuel conservative tune.

Also, weight reduction. If there's a whole bunch of crap you don't need in the car take it out.

Umm...jack your tyre pressures up? You'll get a slightly less grip, but you also lower your rolling resistance. Check your alignment as well. Running too much toe can cost you as much as 10% of your maximum power (as one of my tuners noticed on another customer's car), which means your engine has to generate more power to accelerate and hold speed than otherwise.

All this depends on how often you track the car, where you need maximum power and an aggressive suspension / alignment setup. If its primarily a street car that you have to daily drive, I'd set it up for that instead of the once-in-a-blue-moon track session.

car has cat back, pod, around 10-11psi and an aftermarket chip... 145rwkw BEFORE i boosted her up...

On the highway i get the same economy as freeway, i got reaconable economy when i drove to palmy the other night. 60-70kmh in 5th at around 2grandish......

my A/f ratios arent too bad from the dyno sheet i saw, tyres are good, just been aligned, i can be a leadfoot BUT if im not a leadfoot its only slightly better, i normally rev it to 3 when babying and no more than 5.5k when thrashing....

reckon my 02 Sensor is f**ked or something? the car is reasonably stock,

weight reduction, well theres me, some tits, a sub, amps, more tits, sunroof hahaha no 400kg of tiles or anything....

Any more ideas people to things i can start looking at and testing?

O2 sensor? ive got no idea where to look as im so used to shit economy........

100km and just over half a tank left today :<

Ed

[cowie165]

...i mean starting a thread called "i want to die" because petrol price increased by 10c per litre? that's why i say suck it up. plus it's all i hear about lately, people complaining about petrol price. sure it's a problem but it really doesnt effect life all that much unless you are driving many, many kms per week. and most of the people bitching are not.

I agree Richard.

EXAMPLE A

Australian average distance per car per year? Let's say 25,000km. We could assume an average consumption of 12L/100km, giving us 12L x 250. That's 3000 litres of fuel used per car per year, in this example. Given a 10c/L increase, that would mean you are paying an extra $300 per year.

EXAMPLE B

The 2004 Sydney median house price was $505,000 (SMH 21 Feb 05). For the sake of simplicity, we'll increase the interest rate by 0.25%. That equates to an additional $1,262 in interest fees per year. As I said, the model is fairly simple, but I think you see my point.

I can't imagine any mortgagees complaining - the increased fuel costs are delaying any rate increase. If aren't paying a home loan and are complaining about the increase, then the price of living in your own house will come as a big shock!

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

skyline -> park it in the garage

Always drive the g/f's echo, its manual.... LOL

gets around 650~700kms per tank, costs $40 to fill up...

[(oo\__4Door__/oo)]

Mr Ed

i had a fuel line leak and thatw as costing me a fair amount of km's per tank,

maybe that could be wats up?

[FriniK]

We're all going to die

Peak Oil ... alot of you have read it. ..some of you might not have ...

anyway ..enjoy your cars while you can.

its the beginning of the end!! .... i guess if we have another war we'll end up with some more holidays? ..