Abs?

[Guest Senator]

I've found a R33 GTST series 2 that i'm thinking of purchasing but it has no ABS. This is the first series 2 that i have seen without ABS. I'm a little worried then about the car.

Is it really worth holding out and waiting for a car with ABS a well?

Any comments?

[Guest Senator]

Is there any other series 2 features that the car should have?

[predator]

Probably the very first few had ABS still as an option, but i'd check to make sure its a genuine series 2 and not really a series 1 disguised with the different bonnet and frontbar.

But concerning ABS and whether its a needed feature, I wouldn't be too stressed personally, I don't have trouble stopping without it All ABS does is if you even out the braking a bit more so during an emergency or in the wet it prevents them from locking up so much. If you're getting to that stage, then well I wouldn't be relying on a computer to save me.

[Guest Senator]

How do i ensure it is a series 2. it's a 1996 model, is that enough?

[skyline33]

check your pm

[ice180]

ABS is still an option even on series 2 more had it than series one but not all. The one I have for sale has ABS

[Phil]

Originally posted by ice180

ABS is still an option even on series 2 more had it than series one but not all. The one I have for sale has ABS

Richie is right. When I was looking for mine, 90% of the ones I looked at in Japan didn't have ABS. Seems people were too tight to pay extra for it.

[Timmy G]

Yeah, ABS on *all* R33s is an option.

ABS was a primary concern for me, but the perfect car came up - but no ABS - never looked back. If you have the opportunity to get it, I would because it's safer, but don't hold out for it.

I reckon the first month is a bit of a milestone if you're not used to such a powerful car, so just be careful - ESPECIALLY IN THE WET.

You will hear everyone tell you that and you may not take heed, but it rained the first day I got mine and I lost the back bigtime. I was lucky no one was in the lanes to the left and right of me

[DanielGTST]

Read this;

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?p...96/pr121096.htm

ABS is only as good as the driver, I wouldn't stress about not having it.

Daniel

[rs73]

I think most of the automatic will come as ABS as they're more of luxury items. Mine came with one, but I've ditched my auto and chucked in a manual gearbox 2 months ago.

The only thing if your car don't have ABS and you have to make a hard braking in the wet, never kill your pedal by stomping on it as it will lock all your wheels and slide your car even further. As soon as you hear/feel your wheel locking lift up the pressure off your foot a tad so the brake pressure is in the treshhold before locking your wheels.

Needs practice, but when done properly, you can stop as quick as an ABS equipped car. Try finding an empty street on a rainy day and do that practice until you know what amount of foot pressure you need to stop without locking your wheels.

[hungry6]

This unbelievable. u peoples think u can stop a car as good or close enough to an abs equipe car? I've been to enough race day and drive day to know one thing, human response is not even close to abs . why do u think it was ban from f1 and the times goes up. unless u can pulses ur right foot on the floor at the rate of about 100 times a second. get a car with abs.

[Duncan]

I agree with Hippy. You hear alot about how a great driver can stop better without ABS. Well, most people are not great drivers, and even great drivers don't pay enough attention all the time.

I'd prefer to avoid the accident than have a seatbelt and airbag keep me safe when I have one.

[Duncan]

Oh, and I should add, even on the track I prefer ABS (although full on racing is a different matter).

While you don't have to use it (ie you can stop just as well as you would without ABS), you can also be 100% sure that you aren't going to flat spot some expensive track tyres with a lock up. I've killed more tyres with flatspots when racing than I ever have worn out almost!

[NO_RSPECT]

newayz, the seriesII should have an electronically controlled LSD as well as a different interior trim, which granted can be swapped over to fool you, but you also get the dual airbags and you should be able to check here goes.... something on the seatbelts guys, i am not sure if this is right, but yeah something there is stamped with a production date. i mean there is an excellent chance that it is a series II especially if the plate has 1996 on it. and yeah be wary of the ABS cos if you are going from a rice rocket FWD to this monsta you might want the ABS especially if you have a slightly larger right foot that you have trouble holding up. also the series II dash cover (read: the fascia thingy that surrounds the stereo and climate control) is a different grain and is also more 3d than the series 1 and there is no coin box/slot thingo in it.

okay thats it from me

[Phil]

Originally posted by NO_RSPECT

newayz, the seriesII should have an electronically controlled LSD.

Nope, this is only the A-LSD versions. It is a whole different model, not just an option.

something on the seatbelts guys, i am not sure if this is right, but yeah something there is stamped with a production date.

Problem is, that any complied car will have had its seatbelts changed so you can't really check this.

[Jay95R33]

Yepp - Phil is spot on there. Seat belts would've/should've been changed.

A quick way of checking the date of manufacture is to look at the date on the vacume hose going to the brake booster thingy on the left hand side of the engine bay (standing at the front of the car looking in).

But the only true way is to get the VIN number and check through Nissan some how.

J

[MrR33]

yeah, that is very possible to check - i copied down al the details from my original compliance plate - the jap 1 -and called up some nissan dealer - cant remember which one, and they give u build date, as well as color, trans etc. should be more than enough info for u.

and i think it would be a major pain in the ass to change front lights, bonnet, front bar, dash, steering wheel, trim, rear fill panel (between indicators) etc just to trick someone, IMHO....

[surreal]

Not going to argue the value of a good ABS system, however some of the early systems were a bit scary - as in not very well calibrated (especially for OZ conditions). I know this first hand from some of the old company cars I used to beat about in during the early nineties (in the days of my youth...sigh). My speedskyzer does not have ABS, is the system three channel or four channel, who has it, and used it? How effective is it?

[Jay95R33]

Pretty sure it's 4 channel as it has speed sensors on all four wheels and heaps of seperate pipes coming from the cotrol doova in the engine bay.

I've only used mine twice - once was to brake hard and swerve to miss a car that pulled out (it worked a treat that time), and the other time was in the rain when I stompped on the brakes a bit hard.

I found it was fast to react and worked well, but then again, this is the first ABS'd car I've driven....

J